Wikiposts
Search
Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

UK Charter Airlines.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11th May 2009, 22:25
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: scotland
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
UK Charter Airlines.

If you look at the number of UK charter airlines that have dissapeared mergerd or rebranded in the last 20 odd years its quite sad.

Off the top of my head.

Airworld, Flying Colours, JMC, Peach, Caledonian, Mytravel, Inter European, Airtours International - All now Thomas Cook.

Britannia, Orion, First Choice, Leisure, Air 2000, Thomsonfly - All now Thomson Airways.

XL Airways - gone.
Sabre - gone
Ambassador - gone.

Anyone else think of the others.
goldeneye is offline  
Old 11th May 2009, 22:34
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dan Air, European Air Charter, Flightline, Invicta, Air Europe,
22/04 is offline  
Old 11th May 2009, 23:05
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London
Age: 44
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Excalibur - gone!
point5 is offline  
Old 11th May 2009, 23:52
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm no expert, but looking at the lists of airlines that TOM/TCX has swallowed up just highlights to me how different the other big charter airline are.

I can't think of a single airline that has become MONARCH. Surely they must have absorbed someone somewhere along the line!

Finally, hats off to whoever mentioned Excalibur. One of my favourite airlines ever.

RTG!

PS... were Debonair ever a charter company?
ReadyToGo is offline  
Old 11th May 2009, 23:58
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not to mention "British World". I have a postcard somewhere of their very smartly liveried 1-11!

RTG!
ReadyToGo is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 03:13
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: davenport IA
Age: 69
Posts: 410
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
paramount airways was another. they were based in brs.they ran md 83 mainly.
yeo valley is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 05:10
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: LHR line
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dan Air
Who flew scheduled and charter flights.
jedigtr is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 07:25
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Somewhere between here and there....
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
RTG

Debonair was a scheduled carrier trying to be a low cost scheduled carrier. Lets face it, the B737-300 was assigned to a poorly timed W pattern that saw it visit LEBL twice each day. Same with the daily LIRA flight, poorly timed. Nobody was actively going after new slots so as to change the schedule. Perugia was another farce. Some bright spark came up with the idea of flying Luton-Rome via Perugia but forgot to ask anyone if there were any limitations in performance etc. Then there were days when the aircraft would sit all day in either EDLN or EDDM and then return to Luton in the evening. Total waste of aircraft, crew, hotel costs, parking fees etc etc.

However, most of their revenue came from wet lease operations.

2 x 146 for AFR
2 x 146 for SWR
5 x 146 for DLH

They also did weekend charters to Naples from Hamburg, and Chambery from Manchester.

In my opinion, they should have ditched the scheduled brand and focused on being an ACMI operator. As can be proved these days, the 146 can still find a market.
VIKING9 is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 10:15
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: london
Age: 59
Posts: 266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Whats monarchs secret then? well over forty years as the same company amazing really.
simonchowder is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 10:28
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 4DME
Posts: 2,929
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Air Cymru another, UK Leasure, Virgin Sun, Flyjet and Teesside's short lived Polar airlines.
N707ZS is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 10:37
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NW
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Air Scandic.....not really uk but based here....
Envoy320 is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 12:34
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lusaka
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Excalibur, god thats a blast from the past, I used to work For Gatwick Handling and was assigned the EXC flights for check in.
Loved their A320,s, but it all turned horrible when they decided to go long haul and get those Old DC-10s.

And remember Ambassador Airways with those 757,s and old 737-200.

My first post. Oh well the memories!
Jus33 is offline  
Old 12th May 2009, 15:44
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Near Stalyvegas
Age: 78
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Amber Airways...IIRC, they got sued by BMA for using the c/s "Diamond"
Manchester Air Cargo, had two B707Fs for ad hoc charters, can't remember the regs, but they were Lancashire Lass, and Lancashire Lad
chiglet is offline  
Old 13th May 2009, 13:58
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brentwood, Essex
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Other Blasts from the Past

From my 70s Manchester spotting days, there was Laker Airways with their 1-11s and also Court Line with some very colourful 1-11s.

Also (a bit later) Air Europe with 737s which included some scheduled services.

Dan Air did indeed fly scheduled flights - I flew a couple of times on their 1-11 service between Gatwick and Madrid.

Moley
moleytt is offline  
Old 14th May 2009, 13:31
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: EGPF/EGPK
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Donaldson International. This company operated a number of ex Pan Am 707-321s in the early seventies. ( My first flight was on one of their aircraft [G- BAEL ] in February 1973.)
Albaman is offline  
Old 14th May 2009, 15:12
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sussex
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Novair which originated from Cal-Air which was the charter side of BCAL
Mr Grumps is offline  
Old 14th May 2009, 18:46
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From the dim and distant past hanging around BHX as a kid I recall TEA with their 737's and Paramount with their MD 80's (or were they 82's or 83's or 80summats??)
K.Whyjelly is offline  
Old 14th May 2009, 19:04
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: In my own little world
Posts: 776
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't forget British Airtours, the charter side of BA.

Leezyjet is offline  
Old 14th May 2009, 19:43
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Near Stalyvegas
Age: 78
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Channel Airways?
chiglet is offline  
Old 15th May 2009, 12:44
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anorak time

Here's a few more...
  • British Island Airways with their BAC 1-11-400/500s and DC-9-83s
  • All Leisure with A320s - think they were linked to TransAer in Ireland
  • Sunjet - really Air Foyle operating a 737 for a tour operator in Leeds or Manchester
  • Princess Air with a single BAe146-200QC based out of Southend
  • Prime - the offspring of Heavylift and their single A300
  • Classic Airways with a couple of Tristars
  • Mediterranean Express - another 1-11 operator
  • Cougar and their 727s
  • GB Leisure - the charter offshoot of GB Airways
  • Air Atlanta Europe.. ok so really an Icelandic company, but nominally UK based with 747s
  • Air Manchester - started up after Laker failed, but never did a lot of flying ?
  • Air Bristol - more 1-11-500s, also had various other aliases too?
jetstream7 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.