SAS Q400's in Canada?
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You don't say!? . .When having to modify every aircraft up to sn 034 extensively.. .When SAS already have taken one to the scrap yard.
I can't see why they should be questioning the reliability? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
I can't see why they should be questioning the reliability? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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DashPilot: You say they have the SAS markings removed. Just the letterring or have the nacelles & tail been repainted? What colour are they?
SLB: 4002 & 4003 were never painted in SAS colours for Sales efforts. That was 4004.
Knold: SAS taken a Q400 to the scrap yard? Oh really - which one and why?
SLB: 4002 & 4003 were never painted in SAS colours for Sales efforts. That was 4004.
Knold: SAS taken a Q400 to the scrap yard? Oh really - which one and why?
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Bombardier/SAS do the modifications in our hangar. One of the mechs told me that. I don't know which aircraft induvidual it was.
Kinda' raises your eyebrow when thinking about what these mods must cost Bombardier...
Kinda' raises your eyebrow when thinking about what these mods must cost Bombardier...
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Justforkix, for what I know preflight was on the right track.. .But as I said this info is only from one of the mechs working solely with this aircraft type... <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
BTW I'm all that
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BTW I'm all that
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OK, I have to say that the Q400 is not crappy. It is a huge technological leap from the older and shorter DASH8s - there were many development problems but the have been overcome or are in the process of being fixed. The introduction of what was effectively a new aircraft was always going to suffer problems - I think to much was made of the "its still a DASH8 so it be fine" philosophy.
Knold; have you actually flown in one of these aircraft? If so, have you flown in an ATR and ATP and a Dornier? If the answer to these is YES then you must be able to see the fact that the Q400 is a great passengers aircraft - quieter, quicker and roomier.
From an economics sense, the fact that SAS are flying the pants off their fleet says all you need to know abou how much money they are making with the Q400.
And before you ask who's payroll I am on, I'll declare my vested interest as one of the FTEs from the certification program!! And proud of it!
Knold; have you actually flown in one of these aircraft? If so, have you flown in an ATR and ATP and a Dornier? If the answer to these is YES then you must be able to see the fact that the Q400 is a great passengers aircraft - quieter, quicker and roomier.
From an economics sense, the fact that SAS are flying the pants off their fleet says all you need to know abou how much money they are making with the Q400.
And before you ask who's payroll I am on, I'll declare my vested interest as one of the FTEs from the certification program!! And proud of it!
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SK111: You mention a call out to alert the crew to attitude during approach & landing. Interested to know what this is. Is it one of the EGPWS height callouts or is it a new one coupled though the AHRS pitch information? Dont recall there being one when I worked the program.
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The callout is a pilot not flying callout warning for pitch in excess of 5 degrees.. .And it may be a technological leap from the older Dash 8...but honestly...it's not that impressive. Most of the problems come from the old electrical system. A DC one at that!! in a NEW aircraft!!? Don't get me wrong, it's a VERY nice aircraft to fly, lot of power, handles very well...but..some things aren't that good about it. I agree..it takes some time to get things in order. I just hope that it will happen anytime soon.
bst rgrds
The callout is a pilot not flying callout warning for pitch in excess of 5 degrees.. .And it may be a technological leap from the older Dash 8...but honestly...it's not that impressive. Most of the problems come from the old electrical system. A DC one at that!! in a NEW aircraft!!? Don't get me wrong, it's a VERY nice aircraft to fly, lot of power, handles very well...but..some things aren't that good about it. I agree..it takes some time to get things in order. I just hope that it will happen anytime soon.
bst rgrds