Strange callsign
Strange callsign
Guest
Posts: n/a
If it is the Airplane, I think, it will be no callsign but a registration, often used by controllers as a "callsign". There is a King Air based at Paderborn/Lippstadt, Germany with the Registration: D-IANA, which explains itself.
Hope, I could help,
Midnight Blue
Hope, I could help,
Midnight Blue
Guest
Posts: n/a
Barcode,
Boeing BBJ N737WH has been in Dublin and Cork every few days for the last two or three weeks. Its operated by the Miami Dolphins. They also have a Bell 430 and a few Gulfstream 4's which have all been around Dublin recently.
Its just one big golf outing!
Good luck,
737
Boeing BBJ N737WH has been in Dublin and Cork every few days for the last two or three weeks. Its operated by the Miami Dolphins. They also have a Bell 430 and a few Gulfstream 4's which have all been around Dublin recently.
Its just one big golf outing!
Good luck,
737
Guest
Posts: n/a
Northern Ireland Support Helicopter Force use the Voice Callsign "Swallow" followed by a two-digit number when outside the Provence. You can imagine which number was always booked months in advance! A giggling air traffic controller from Chivenor thought she was the first to see the connection, but hey! that's what it's all about.
Guest
Posts: n/a
'Witchcraft' is c/s for Flugdienst Fehlhaber Gmbh of Neustadt, Germany, ICAO code FFG. I have seen their Cessna F406 Caravan II 's at Prestwick.
'Frog-Line' is c/s for Frosch Touristik Gmbh of Munich, Germany, ICAO code FTI.
(info from ICAO code book)
[This message has been edited by Eric T Cartman (edited 01 July 2000).]
'Frog-Line' is c/s for Frosch Touristik Gmbh of Munich, Germany, ICAO code FTI.
(info from ICAO code book)
[This message has been edited by Eric T Cartman (edited 01 July 2000).]
Guest
Posts: n/a
ICAO is supposed to ratify company callsigns on the basis that they are phonetically uniqe and/or distinguishable.
Now we seem to have operations called "Ghost Rider" and "Coast Rider" which are absloutely identical phonetically operating within a few miles of each other.
Two years ago there were "Debonair" and "Japanair" callsigns with IDENTICAL numbers operating simultaneously in Maastricht airspace.....Try saying "Debonair" and "Japanair" in Dutch and Japanese English accents and youll maybe see my point. Additionally there was also a company called "Denimair" on frequency too!
This is bloody dangerous and ICAO needs to get its act together before a serious incident or worse occurs.
They aint in control!
Now we seem to have operations called "Ghost Rider" and "Coast Rider" which are absloutely identical phonetically operating within a few miles of each other.
Two years ago there were "Debonair" and "Japanair" callsigns with IDENTICAL numbers operating simultaneously in Maastricht airspace.....Try saying "Debonair" and "Japanair" in Dutch and Japanese English accents and youll maybe see my point. Additionally there was also a company called "Denimair" on frequency too!
This is bloody dangerous and ICAO needs to get its act together before a serious incident or worse occurs.
They aint in control!
Guest
Posts: n/a
The same is relevant for "Birdie" and "British", whilst "British" in certain UK accents is pronounced something like "Birtish" ... that makes these two callsigns sound a lot alike !
But how about waypoints - in Norway, on the stretch between Oslo and the South West coast there are some waypoints within a confined area, that can sound the same. Apart from Sola (Stavanger), there are a great number of points starting with SO, strangely enough they are all on the FIR boundary dividing ENSV and ENOS - named from the south:
SONAV-SOSOL-SOTIR-SOGLO-SOPAS-SOPAR-SOGRA-SOPEN-SOMAG-SOBOD-SOMES and then there are the NDB's near Oslo named SOKNA SOLBERG.
They are all different all right, but the kind of controller likely to put the pressure on the first syllable will let SOPAR and SOPAS sound alike, when they omit the trailing 'ssss' of SOPAS. These two points are less than 30 miles apart - and it doesn't help either, that Norwegians have a special 'twist' of wowes (sp?) where "a" becomes "arg" or "r", "o" becomes "oo" or "u", and "u" becomes "yh" (!) - this makes "SOPAR" sound like "SUPAR", and "SOGLO" sound like "ZUGLU" ... If you know this, or can guess where they want you, it is no problem, but to newcomers, you would often need a few "say agains" ...
Aren't these points made up in ICAO, Eurocontrol or somewhere central ? Wonder why these points had to be so similar sounding.
