What is the largest aircraft a PPL can fly?
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From: Not in dreamland any more.
What is the largest aircraft a PPL can fly?
Just out of curiosity, which is the largest single engine aircraft a PPL holder can fly with (even if the PPL has IR)
And what is the largest twin engine a ME/IR PPL holder can fly?
Cheers,
And what is the largest twin engine a ME/IR PPL holder can fly?
Cheers,
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If a private pilot is rated for the airplane, there's no size limit. Single engine or multi engine.
A private pilot with a type rating for a B747...can fly a B747.
Getting the type rating and getting in a position to be able to fly the aircraft...that's another matter.
A private pilot with a type rating for a B747...can fly a B747.
Getting the type rating and getting in a position to be able to fly the aircraft...that's another matter.
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From: Not in dreamland any more.
So, if you learnt to fly in a PA28 then you would have the PA28 as your type rating on your PPL and if you wanted to fly the Cessna 182 you would need to do the conversion and have that as a type rating too?
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From: crawley
Sir
The way I see it and I Think this is right
If you have a PPL and ME rating you can fly anything inc B747.
Subject to Insurance etc but on a PPL you dont need a Specific type rating for the Aircraft (Once again I Might be Wrong and stand to be corrected)
Many Years ago the old Chairman of Vickers f
was flying a Viscount on his PPL.
Hope this helps but I am note 100 percent certain
Regards
The way I see it and I Think this is right
If you have a PPL and ME rating you can fly anything inc B747.
Subject to Insurance etc but on a PPL you dont need a Specific type rating for the Aircraft (Once again I Might be Wrong and stand to be corrected)
Many Years ago the old Chairman of Vickers f
was flying a Viscount on his PPL.
Hope this helps but I am note 100 percent certain
Regards
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From: langholm
On a standard PPL at 45 hours flying time you are restricted to 5800lbs which is still a fairly large aircraft and twin engines
so an example of this would be a Cessna Golden eagle/421
hope this is of any use
so an example of this would be a Cessna Golden eagle/421
hope this is of any use
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From: Southern Shores of Old Lusitania Kingdom
AFAIK things has changed a bit over the last years...Since JAA/EASA hold the powers, in a member state as long as the type requires a Type-rating, its mandatory to have Commercial + ATPL frozen, at least its what the guys in the authorities says here in Portugal...correct me please if im wrong, or any other european country if different
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I was once told that the chief British test pilot for the Concorde did it on a PPL.
Is that right?
Is that right?
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A standard UK PPL is effectively type rated for Single Engine Piston (SEP) aircraft.
In order to fly multi engine you must do the ME course and in order to fly jets you must obtain a jet rating.
Equally the PPL only allows you to fly Visual Flight Rules (VFR) and an Instrument Rating (IR) must be obtained in order to fly IFR.
If you want to fly a 747 VFR you are a braver man than me.
In order to fly multi engine you must do the ME course and in order to fly jets you must obtain a jet rating.
Equally the PPL only allows you to fly Visual Flight Rules (VFR) and an Instrument Rating (IR) must be obtained in order to fly IFR.
If you want to fly a 747 VFR you are a braver man than me.
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In the US there is no type rating for airplanes less than 12,500 lb max certified TOGW, except for turbojet powered airplanes. Endorsements are required for tailwheel and complex airplanes, but they are general endorsements that cover all airplanes of that description. I don't know what the UK or JAA limit is.
So, a PPL holder with a complex airplane endorsement could theoretically fly any single-engine piston or turboprop airplane with tricycle gear with max TOGW of less than 12,500 lb.
Still, insurance requirements and common sense would restrict a pilot with only C172 experience to a MUCH smaller subset...
So, a PPL holder with a complex airplane endorsement could theoretically fly any single-engine piston or turboprop airplane with tricycle gear with max TOGW of less than 12,500 lb.
Still, insurance requirements and common sense would restrict a pilot with only C172 experience to a MUCH smaller subset...
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From: Hotel this week, hotel next week, home whenever...
In hopefully simple terms there are three types of pilots licence...
The Private Pilots Licence, The Commercial Pilots Licence and the Air Transport Pilots Licence.
The licence dictates what you can do (in broad terms) when you fly. E.G. PPL allows flying for pleasure, or in the persuit of your business interests. A CPL allows you to charge for you services as a pilot (instructing, survey work, small charter etc) and ATPL allows you to command large commercial aircraft.
To any of these licences, you attach a rating - usually SEP (Single Engine Piston), MEP (Multi Engine Piston) or a Specific Type Rating. Usually you require a Type Rating for a Jet (or JetProp) aircaft, although there are type ratings for large piston engine. These ratings may be attached to any licence type. If you have an SEP or MEP you are allowed to fly any aircraft in that class provided you have the correct DIFFERENCES trainig to allow you to fly that particular aircraft (tailwheel, retract, VP etc). MEP types require you to be trained on type.
That covers what you can fly....where you can fly it depends upon the rules and the conditions in which you fly or find yourself. There are two rule set...visual and instrument.
To fly VFR you must maintain Visual Meterological Conditions (visibility and distance from cloud) for the class of airspace that you find yourself in. You cannot fly VFR in IMC - it's just not possible. You can, however, fly under IFR in either VMC or IMC. To fly in IMC you must be suitably qualified (IMCR or IR) and current.
As for flying a 747 under VFR - why ever not? You are subject to the same 'see and avoid' philosophy as everybody else - and being that big you're more likely to be seen and avoided. No rule against it. Indeed NJE often re-position VFR outside controlled airspace.
The Private Pilots Licence, The Commercial Pilots Licence and the Air Transport Pilots Licence.
The licence dictates what you can do (in broad terms) when you fly. E.G. PPL allows flying for pleasure, or in the persuit of your business interests. A CPL allows you to charge for you services as a pilot (instructing, survey work, small charter etc) and ATPL allows you to command large commercial aircraft.
To any of these licences, you attach a rating - usually SEP (Single Engine Piston), MEP (Multi Engine Piston) or a Specific Type Rating. Usually you require a Type Rating for a Jet (or JetProp) aircaft, although there are type ratings for large piston engine. These ratings may be attached to any licence type. If you have an SEP or MEP you are allowed to fly any aircraft in that class provided you have the correct DIFFERENCES trainig to allow you to fly that particular aircraft (tailwheel, retract, VP etc). MEP types require you to be trained on type.
That covers what you can fly....where you can fly it depends upon the rules and the conditions in which you fly or find yourself. There are two rule set...visual and instrument.
To fly VFR you must maintain Visual Meterological Conditions (visibility and distance from cloud) for the class of airspace that you find yourself in. You cannot fly VFR in IMC - it's just not possible. You can, however, fly under IFR in either VMC or IMC. To fly in IMC you must be suitably qualified (IMCR or IR) and current.
As for flying a 747 under VFR - why ever not? You are subject to the same 'see and avoid' philosophy as everybody else - and being that big you're more likely to be seen and avoided. No rule against it. Indeed NJE often re-position VFR outside controlled airspace.
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If you want to fly a 747 VFR you are a braver man than me
There was a 747 booting round the circuit in Grenoble a few weeks ago....
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"Don`t Hang Up". I really can`t imagine where the fairy tale about the Chief Engineer came from. Most TPs at that time had limited civilian licenses as they flew aircraft that were not certified. They flew under an "Approval" system. There were ATPLs on the team and I remember Eddie Mcnamara was the first UK pilot to have Concorde stamped on his.
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From: Chabanais, France
First you have to find an owner of a B747 that is prepared to let you fly it and then, big then, you have to find an underwriter who will insure you against third party risk and legal liability, millions, possibly billions of $ worth of risk, (that assumes the owner is going to self insure the hull), no self respecting underwriter will insure you if you do not have relevant training and experience.
The pilots that fly big aircraft on PPls will, almost certainly, have several thousand hours of relevant experience on other similar types or the same type in the military.
The pilots that fly big aircraft on PPls will, almost certainly, have several thousand hours of relevant experience on other similar types or the same type in the military.