How many flying hours do you have?
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6500 hours
200 hours last year. Bizjet.
Do 1 flying tour with 2 office tours a month. (1 tour = 6 days)
6500 hours
200 hours last year. Bizjet.
Do 1 flying tour with 2 office tours a month. (1 tour = 6 days)
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Originally Posted by diarmuid8
157TT with a frozen ATPL
For the record:
2260TT
ATPL
1998 to 2005 - 330 hrs - PPL and training
2006 - 711 hrs in 746 lessons given!
2007 - 535 hrs in 405 sectors
2008 - 678 hrs in 480 sectors
Buttonpusher
About 14.000 hours flying running about 800 hrs/yr. plus 7 years as a Fright Engineer on the 727 and DC-10.
30 years of sitting on my bum and pushing buttons ...where did the time go ??
30 years of sitting on my bum and pushing buttons ...where did the time go ??
To get a perspective on corporate flying an old boss used to say, "they pay us to wait, the flying is for free". Nothing better summarized it.
i have done 40 hours in 6 days and 7.4 in 16 days. Go figure.
GF
i have done 40 hours in 6 days and 7.4 in 16 days. Go figure.
GF
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To get a perspective on corporate flying an old boss used to say, "they pay us to wait, the flying is for free". Nothing better summarized it.
And I loved it. Ten years later I was hating flying over a 100 hours a month.
I actually got burned out.
Now, if I could go back flying, 40 to 50 hours a month would be perfect.
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To JWL Boyce:
I've been flying over 30 years and have about 12,000 hours. Half was military, half civilian both in the airlilnes and my own flying. I usually fly about 250 hours/year depending on the schedule.
Now if you could help me, I'm brand new to PPrune and want to start a new thread but can't figure out how to do that. If you could tell me how you posted this thread, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
I've been flying over 30 years and have about 12,000 hours. Half was military, half civilian both in the airlilnes and my own flying. I usually fly about 250 hours/year depending on the schedule.
Now if you could help me, I'm brand new to PPrune and want to start a new thread but can't figure out how to do that. If you could tell me how you posted this thread, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
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PPL fixed wing single/multi engine, land and sea, night endorsements, PPL rotary wing
First lesson 1976, soloed 16th birthday, licensed 1978 on 17th birthday
About 5000 hours total PIC time in 70+ types of general aviation aircraft, no military, 150 hours per year these days.
Pilot DAR
First lesson 1976, soloed 16th birthday, licensed 1978 on 17th birthday
About 5000 hours total PIC time in 70+ types of general aviation aircraft, no military, 150 hours per year these days.
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This thread turns out, as usual, into a contest of...
"I got more (...¿?) than you...!"
"And me, I have...!"
xxx
Ok... me, I tell the ladies I have a bigger one...!
Logbook that is...
Happy contrails
"I got more (...¿?) than you...!"
"And me, I have...!"
xxx
Ok... me, I tell the ladies I have a bigger one...!
Logbook that is...
Happy contrails
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To the original poster: in my experience, hours don't mean much of anything.
I began flying as a teenager, and to date have flown in a reasonably wide variety of operations. I've flown a lot in some years, and very little in others, ranging from tens of hours to hundreds of hours...and some of those hours have been nearly without meaning as I monitored an autopilot fly over countless miles of ocean, and other hours have been intense learning experiences which left me tired and unable to climb out of the cockpit at the end of the day. Some of the more intense flying is easily worth 500 hours of the pointless flying, in terms of effort, experience, and quality...but each hour is only one hour in the logbook...and scarcely more than a few scratches of ink.
I couldn't care less about the hours, but I'm keenly interested in what each pilot can do...and that's all that really counts in the cockpit.
I began flying as a teenager, and to date have flown in a reasonably wide variety of operations. I've flown a lot in some years, and very little in others, ranging from tens of hours to hundreds of hours...and some of those hours have been nearly without meaning as I monitored an autopilot fly over countless miles of ocean, and other hours have been intense learning experiences which left me tired and unable to climb out of the cockpit at the end of the day. Some of the more intense flying is easily worth 500 hours of the pointless flying, in terms of effort, experience, and quality...but each hour is only one hour in the logbook...and scarcely more than a few scratches of ink.
I couldn't care less about the hours, but I'm keenly interested in what each pilot can do...and that's all that really counts in the cockpit.
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1 wife
2 kids
3 logbooks
4 decades of safe flying
5 jet type ratings
6 Continents
7 th heaven - retirement
lots of hours spent looking at the cracks in hotel ceilings, waiting for "call-time"
thousands of happy hours in a cockpit somewhere or other,
and lots of happy memories (mostly) of many colleagues.
2 kids
3 logbooks
4 decades of safe flying
5 jet type ratings
6 Continents
7 th heaven - retirement
lots of hours spent looking at the cracks in hotel ceilings, waiting for "call-time"
thousands of happy hours in a cockpit somewhere or other,
and lots of happy memories (mostly) of many colleagues.
Acropilot
Since no one seems to have answered your question at #30, go to the Forum on which you wish to post, click "Forum Tools" at the top right, click "Post a New Thread", post and submit your message, put on your tin helmet and stand by for incoming flak!
Back to the thread, why am I not surprised that 411A is "winning" the Battle of the Hours (so far) or that BelArgUSA modestly, and amusingly, is not saying?
Jack
PS Pontius - During a Cod War my annualised average was near 700 Sounds a bit fishy to me ....
Since no one seems to have answered your question at #30, go to the Forum on which you wish to post, click "Forum Tools" at the top right, click "Post a New Thread", post and submit your message, put on your tin helmet and stand by for incoming flak!
Back to the thread, why am I not surprised that 411A is "winning" the Battle of the Hours (so far) or that BelArgUSA modestly, and amusingly, is not saying?
Jack
PS Pontius - During a Cod War my annualised average was near 700 Sounds a bit fishy to me ....
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Flight hours...
I always like a bit of humour here and there...
Now, speaking seriously...
xxx
I guess when I started flying, yes, I counted the hours and minutes...
First, was a "race" to solo ASAP, with "minimum hours"...
And my logbook faithfully indicated HH:mm, I forgot indicating seconds.
xxx
Then was military, hours, minutes changed into hours and tenth of hours.
Then came the airlines. You had to have the minimum hours they required.
And keep on logging to get (then) 1,200 hours for the ATPL.
xxx
Then you keep on logging for your first command.
That happens, I dont know, at some 5,000 hours total as average.
Then with it comes the first type rating, then more type ratings.
xxx
If you need a job with another airline, be sure to have 1,000 command hours.
And 500 hours command on that type. That generally covers you OK.
Then after that... hours do not mean much.
Yes... extra money if you fly overtime.
xxx
Company hours came with monthly records with the salary check...
So logging became inexistant...
If someone asks, I say "see company records".
Any airline must keep records. You might have lost your logbook.
xxx
Statistics for you. Average airline pilots fly 600-700 hrs per year.
If you are condemned to a "loco" airline in Europe, make it 899.9 hrs per year.
Corporate guys are more lucky. Most seem to do 400-500 hrs.
Military guys depends. Hardly much over 300 hrs, depends on type aircraft.
So, if a guy tells you "I fly for Delta since 1990", you can guess his hours.
xxx
Let us compare to our friend 411A humpteen hours...
One of my acquaintances, Clay Lacy, had (latest count) near 50,000 hrs.
Does not include the hours he did not log to remain under his yearly limits.
Cannot recall how many type ratings he has... 30, 40, 50 of them...?
Flew USAF, flew United Air Lines, owns a FBO (private jets) since mid-1960s.
Now in his early 70s... he might still log a few thousands more.
xxx
So... as our friend PKPF68-77 mentions to me, as follows...
"people in skilled jobs are generally competitive by nature"...
Really makes me laugh... we pilots are skilled...?
Now that I am retired, I look for a real job for the first time.
Doing OK playing piano at the restaurant, for free drinks.
I will play just about any requests. No sheet music needed.
But my violonist partner, is a pretty lady. She gets the tips....
I shaved my legs, though... Maybe is my after shave...?
xxx
Do re mi - and happy contrails rhapsody...
Now, speaking seriously...
xxx
I guess when I started flying, yes, I counted the hours and minutes...
First, was a "race" to solo ASAP, with "minimum hours"...
And my logbook faithfully indicated HH:mm, I forgot indicating seconds.
xxx
Then was military, hours, minutes changed into hours and tenth of hours.
Then came the airlines. You had to have the minimum hours they required.
And keep on logging to get (then) 1,200 hours for the ATPL.
xxx
Then you keep on logging for your first command.
That happens, I dont know, at some 5,000 hours total as average.
Then with it comes the first type rating, then more type ratings.
xxx
If you need a job with another airline, be sure to have 1,000 command hours.
And 500 hours command on that type. That generally covers you OK.
Then after that... hours do not mean much.
Yes... extra money if you fly overtime.
xxx
Company hours came with monthly records with the salary check...
So logging became inexistant...
If someone asks, I say "see company records".
Any airline must keep records. You might have lost your logbook.
xxx
Statistics for you. Average airline pilots fly 600-700 hrs per year.
If you are condemned to a "loco" airline in Europe, make it 899.9 hrs per year.
Corporate guys are more lucky. Most seem to do 400-500 hrs.
Military guys depends. Hardly much over 300 hrs, depends on type aircraft.
So, if a guy tells you "I fly for Delta since 1990", you can guess his hours.
xxx
Let us compare to our friend 411A humpteen hours...
One of my acquaintances, Clay Lacy, had (latest count) near 50,000 hrs.
Does not include the hours he did not log to remain under his yearly limits.
Cannot recall how many type ratings he has... 30, 40, 50 of them...?
Flew USAF, flew United Air Lines, owns a FBO (private jets) since mid-1960s.
Now in his early 70s... he might still log a few thousands more.
xxx
So... as our friend PKPF68-77 mentions to me, as follows...
"people in skilled jobs are generally competitive by nature"...
Really makes me laugh... we pilots are skilled...?
Now that I am retired, I look for a real job for the first time.
Doing OK playing piano at the restaurant, for free drinks.
I will play just about any requests. No sheet music needed.
But my violonist partner, is a pretty lady. She gets the tips....
I shaved my legs, though... Maybe is my after shave...?
xxx
Do re mi - and happy contrails rhapsody...
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To PKPF68-77
Dear Sherlock...
xxx
You got the "Happy Trails" melody quite correct as origin for my "contrails".
But the original "Happy Trails" was the sign-off melody of cowboy Roy Rogers.
Goes back to the early 1950s... black and white Western movies.
I have used "Happy Contrails" probably for... 30+ years.
xxx
Piano academy/conservatory, I was not too succesful as a teen.
Mother wanted me to be the next Van Cliburn or Philippe Entremont.
But massacred Freddie Chopin, and Fliszt (as Victor Borge used to say).
Mother was a piano teacher and somewhat notorious violonist in orchestras.
And I was more interested in going to see airplanes at the airport.
xxx
So we play anything that people like. Here tango of course. Piazzola, Gardel...
A dash of Brahms or Dvoräk, a bit of of jazz or pop music to please the crowd.
Many people like Fritz Kreisler light classical piano/violin duos here too.
When I go back to Brussels, sometimes join a band of Hungarian gypsies for fun.
Same deal - free drinks and goulash in their restaurant.
Got a Bösendorfer concert grand at home in Buenos Aires... 1910 vintage.
And a Yamaha baby grand in Florianopolis - 1980/90 junk...
But I can speak music almost as much as aeroplanes.
xxx
Greetings from Watson - and... "happy contrails" always.
xxx
You got the "Happy Trails" melody quite correct as origin for my "contrails".
But the original "Happy Trails" was the sign-off melody of cowboy Roy Rogers.
Goes back to the early 1950s... black and white Western movies.
I have used "Happy Contrails" probably for... 30+ years.
xxx
Piano academy/conservatory, I was not too succesful as a teen.
Mother wanted me to be the next Van Cliburn or Philippe Entremont.
But massacred Freddie Chopin, and Fliszt (as Victor Borge used to say).
Mother was a piano teacher and somewhat notorious violonist in orchestras.
And I was more interested in going to see airplanes at the airport.
xxx
So we play anything that people like. Here tango of course. Piazzola, Gardel...
A dash of Brahms or Dvoräk, a bit of of jazz or pop music to please the crowd.
Many people like Fritz Kreisler light classical piano/violin duos here too.
When I go back to Brussels, sometimes join a band of Hungarian gypsies for fun.
Same deal - free drinks and goulash in their restaurant.
Got a Bösendorfer concert grand at home in Buenos Aires... 1910 vintage.
And a Yamaha baby grand in Florianopolis - 1980/90 junk...
But I can speak music almost as much as aeroplanes.
xxx
Greetings from Watson - and... "happy contrails" always.
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I started my first job, commercial 146 F/O, with 167.5 hrs TT and a fATPL.
That's astonishing! I didn't know it was possible to get a frozen ATPL with less than about 200 hrs!
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Still researching and pricing out my PPL at the local flying clubs at 15. Every website i've looked on for airline recruiting require 1500 TT with many asking for 500 hours on type. Where are the jobs for 167.5 hours 
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Got my PPL in 1988, CPL/IR in 1991.
First commercial job in 1994 with 500hrs total time on a BAE Jetsream 41.
Been flying A340's and A330's since 1996 and just passed 10,000hrs total time doing around 750 hrs a year.
JF
First commercial job in 1994 with 500hrs total time on a BAE Jetsream 41.
Been flying A340's and A330's since 1996 and just passed 10,000hrs total time doing around 750 hrs a year.
JF