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Air Nav v SBS-1 Virtual Radar Systems?

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Old 6th Jan 2009, 11:45
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Knievel, none of those feeds are from the UK! There are a few feeds from around Europe but not the UK. I believe some UK feeds were removed a few years ago (as I mentioned above). It may not be illegal in other countries, but it is in the UK, ie to re-broadcast UK originating information.
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Groundloop,

Interesting, I wondered why I could listen to Dublin, Amsterdam, New York etc but nothing in the UK.

K77.

P.S. It's great listening if you are bored.

P.P.S. I have just bought a device called a Blackbox which is a passive receiver allowing radio transmissions to be listened to in the cabin of a plane......it will be interesting to see if I get asked to stop using it!
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The network facility on the radarbox is a tricky one - it is not broadcast over the internet as such rather being 'tapped into' by users (who pay for this access btw - after 1 year) for example I am only seeing what other RB users are seeing and would see myself if I were there.
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 12:58
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There is no question at all that if a UK enthusiast re-broadcast the UK airband he would be breaking the law. I'm not saying people don't do it - people drive at 100mph on the M1; they're still breaking the law.

It is against the WT Act in the UK to monitor any transmission for which you do not have authority and it is further illegal to publish anything you hear.
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 16:20
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KNIEVEL

I will be surprised if any airline will let you use it. Does it have an aerial? You can probably pretend it's an IPOD or something ?!?
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 16:24
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The earpiece acts as the aerial and the box itself is no bigger than a pack of cards............having said that someone did suggest that the cockpit was the last thing I should be listening to in case there is a mechanical problem to the aircraft etc!
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 16:26
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SBS or RB

KNEIVEL

In answer to your orignal question - I own an SBS. It's very good. The out of the box software does lack the following (compared to RB)

1. No route information displayed on your scope, e.g. EGNT-EGLL
2. No network data (what other people around the world see on their scope).
3. Requires 3rd party software installs in order to match RB.

I use SBS and Planeplotter (20 euro I think). This gives me coverage across Europe,

Whether it's legal or not, it's a great hobby and I do recommend it. Once you get it, your will want a decent scanner!

BTW - The network data for RB has a 5min delay.

Your decision to buy either should be based in your location and subsequent surroundings. Even a tree outside your house can block signals. Most users end up with an amplifier and external aerial (hills or mountains will affect the performance).

PM me with your email address and I can send you some screen shots.
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 16:54
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I use the SBS along with Air Navs ACARS decoder and suite so I dont have a bias towards one company or the other.

My SBS took about 4 weeks to get up and running the way I wanted but now it is runnings it works great. I believe that the maps on radar box are better than the SBS.

Consider this though. These applications can be CPU intensive. If you have a PC with just 256mb RAM then it could struggle. Also a detailed map can clutter the screen. My SBS map is very minimalistic.

I chose the SBS over the Airnav product because of the interface between the SBS and my ADU database. This keeps my SBS database bang up to date, and with a double click on the screen it tells me if I have seen the particular aircraft before.

The Radarbox does have the advantage of being able to merge its data with the ACARS decoder to form a single data output which is rather cool.

Watch Ebay for cheap SBS1s now, because people may be upgrading to the SBS1e.

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