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Old 1st Nov 2008, 20:19
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lights over liverpool?

About 6.30 tonight,i was in kirkby looking south when i spotted two individual very bright orange lights at about 4000ft no audible sound separated by 500ft flying east then slowly turning towards lpl. Anyone else see them????
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Can I suggest that it is November 5th in a few days? Could it be some kind of parachute/flare?

Just a suggestion
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must admit i did initially think it was flares,but they tracked horizontally then made a slow left turn in unison. They could have been helos but no noise!! As they tracked away they remained same alt and speed
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pabloc,
Having worked in ATC [inc Liverpool] I know just how difficult it is to judge distance, height and separation during the day, let alone at night.
You say that you were in Kirkby, looking south. What you saw may, I repeat may have been two inbound a/c, several miles away with theit landing lights on.
As an aside, when we took UFO sighting reports, we used to ask for an angle from the horizontal, and a bearing from a landmark. Just to avoid any confusion. Hope this helps
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From the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette, and describes the same 2 orange lights. Includes video:

‘UFOs’ spotted in the skies over Teesside - Gazette Live
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hi chiglet,these lights were orange and i could not see any anti collision,port & starboard lights and the turn in near unison was to perfect. (i know kirkby is roughly the MIRSI hold for manch).
With it being the night after halloween i will put it down to two large pumpkins on the back off witches broomsticks!!!!!!
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With it being the night after halloween i will put it down to two large pumpkins on the back off witches broomsticks
Sorry, but we are not allowed to fly over built up areas, [single engine] and definitely no naked lights, so it wasn't a pumpkin
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When trying to observe 'unusual' airborne activity it is VERY important to stop and remain in the same place, this applies when driving or walking.
Find a static reference point, a TV ariel or a tree, and watch how the object moves in relation to it. It is only too easy to 'see' a planet move when you are moving too.

There are a lot of strange things out there, chinese lanterns, stealth aircraft and indeed UFO's ie. just unidentified.

Providing you are static and it makes strange manouvers then it probably is not a conventional aircraft.

I have never seen anything strange as PIC but many professional pilots have. If you have a camcorder make sure that the auto focus is turned off, otherwise the object will appear to be growing and shrinking, which sadly many amateur UFO vids show.

This is a very interesting topic and I'd love to know what the 'Gurnsey' pilots saw.
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Helpful advice to video camera operators faced with UFO sightings.

Before pointing your camera look for the control that fixes focus at infinity.

How many "encounters" have we seen where auto focus renders the recording useless?

Having been "Jonny Head in Air" for 45 years I'm sorry to say I've seen loads of UFOs that 5 minutes later have become IFOs.

I've always said that when "they" arrive we won't need to watch Sky News.

Having said that, remember how long the F117A flew before it was publicaly acknowledged. So, think about what is up there now that we will learn about in the fuschia.

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ps Mulder, Sculley, get yor asses over 2 Liverpool, England you got work 2 do!
 
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Pabloc,

I saw them too from Wigan. It was near to bonfire night so I dismissed it . I went back outside after 15 mins or so and noticed they were still there. I assumed it must be some sort of new floating flare or something.
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We have seen the Lights

The sightings of two orange flame like objects in the sky are real.Myself and my wife saw them over Ormesby at approximately 19:55 on Friday 31st October 2008.They were heading slowly west and seemed to merge into one maybe one was above the other.

YouTube - UFO middlesbrough 12/10/08

YouTube - Morphing UFOs over Middlesbrough, UK. Startling Footage.
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If I had to put money on it I would say parachute flares, I am in the Runcorn area and this time of year I see lots around nov 5th,

They do come down very slowly and burn very bright you can see them for many many miles on a clear night,

You say they were turning towards Liverpool, that could be explained by the fact that as they came lower in the sky the wind comes more from the left, there is around a 30deg difference from 3000ft down to 500ft.

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Chinese lantern things, see them all the time.

First few times I saw them I thought it was a UFO

Really hard to judge the distance at which they are as they are so small.

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I saw them too from Wigan. It was near to bonfire night so I dismissed it . I went back outside after 15 mins or so and noticed they were still there. I assumed it must be some sort of new floating flare or something.
wooo loyal wiganer!
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Having just watched that youtube video (Jeffco's) It was exactly the same thing I saw just over J20 on the M60 whilst parking up after work. I think it was 31/10. I watched them rise up, follow eachother and turn together. I'm pretty sure what I saw were Chinese lanterns, given the date as well, especially after waching them rise up -probably from someone's garden and continue to rise until too far away to be seen. I can see how it must have looked if nobody had seen where they come from as plenty or drivers and neighbours were watching them as well. I took a photo, but you can't make them out on it as already quite far away by that point. Shame. They did look EXACTLY the same colour and intensity as Jeffco's video, though.
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Well the first Youtube video shows nothing.

Second video IMO shows an aircraft in a right hand bank....
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We have seen similar lights 3 times now. The first was a single orange light on the 22 July at 10.25pm, then the same again on 26 July at 9.50pm. The lights were orange and silent flying from the north east heading south west. They came to a hover roughly over Netherley before disappearing at great speed vertically. The same sort of lights were seen again 22 November, this time travelling east to west parallel to the M62. They again came to a hover over Netherley before disappearing vertically, This time there were two lights flying in formation just below cloud level, with one following the other. As they vanished a third light appeared along the same flight path. When this disappeared a further two lights appeared replicating the path of the first two lights. All five were silent and no navigation lights were visible. I have been observing aircarft for 35 years and have never experienced sightings like these before. I am certain they are not products of Boeing or Airbus!!
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I was in Liverpool during the first week of November. I also saw similar lights in the sky. They kept appearing as if by magic and shooting vertically into the sky. I watched them for about 3 hours. My carer tells me they were Fireworks. Where is Planet firework?
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Looks like the aliens are starting to upset the good folk of Birmingham as well now.........................

UFO involved in a dramatic incident - Birmingham Mail
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Old 26th Nov 2008, 08:22
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Ian L, it does not surprise me you have a carer as you are a manc!!!!
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