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Old 17th Oct 2008, 11:08
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Manchester

Firstly:

1) When do they use 23L/06R? Is it just for takeoffs? And is it true that Manchester reverts to using just 23R/06L between 12-1500?

2) Is 118.62 for departures and 119.4 for arrivals?

3) There are two ground frequencies, 121.85 and 125.37. Are they both used?

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In general I think they would use 23L just for take offs and 06R for landings other wise the aircraft would have to taxi up and down the runway reducing available slots. As just SLF I stand to be corrected, nicely please!!!
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1) 23L generally take-offs and 05R landings except 1200-1500. Obviously exceptions if runway maintenance ongoing and SQ 777 has been known to use 05R for departure when near Max Take Off Weight. - something to do with gradients and obstacles.
2) 118.62 is for 23R/05L and 119.4 for 23L/05R
3) I was surprised by the ref to 125.37 but it is there in the info. Never heard it used though. They use 121.7 for Delivery and then 121.85 for Ground

(I think I passed the trick question with ref to 06 & 23 - the runway's not that bent )

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Betablockeruk -

If you were using 23L for take-offs & 05R for landings then things could get very messy very quickly!
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As well as runway/instrument maintenance which was outlined above, I believe MAN also tries to use 23L/05R for emergency/priority landings where the aircraft are a little further away from the terminal and other parked aircraft, in case the worst occurs.
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(I think I passed the trick question with ref to 06 & 23 - the runway's not that bent )

Sorry - one of my daft moments

So just to get this straight:
WESTERLY (23) ops: 23L for t/o 23R for LDG
23R for T/O & LDG between 12-1500

EASTERLY OPS: 05L for t/o 05L for LDG
05L for BOTH between 12-1500

Does that sound right?
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EASTERLY OPS: 05L for t/o 05L for LDG
05L for BOTH between 12-1500...
Does that sound right? How can I put this? NO
R/w 05L for T/O....R/w 05R for landing...
During "published hours",of course.
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Now we have the bent runway all sorted out (doesn't half increase wear and tear on the tyres you know ), can I make a request?

All you spottery types, if we're kind enough to wave and toot the horn, at least try and look happy. You can even wave back if you like.
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What are you blithering on about?
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I've got a great Idea

We have herd about curved runways - extend the idea to its logical conclusion - Circular runways - infinite TORA - you might need some very strong ropes though ! Imagine a slingshot SID - Oh well back to my medication -

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We have herd about curved runways - extend the idea to its logical conclusion - Circular runways - infinite TORA
This "idea" was mooted many moons ago ["60's"], but never took off... Boom...Tssshh
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All you spottery types, if we're kind enough to wave and toot the horn, at least try and look happy. You can even wave back if you like
Im always waving at the spotters too but never get a second glace! maybe if i painted a reg on my hand they would look and write it down! something like

UR-ALGAY
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I recall hearing from somewhere around the time the second runway opened that with a pair of parallel runways in operation, landings are generally on the one that are seen first from the air, takeoffs from the other one.

With the layout at Manchester, that means takeoffs are normally on xxL, landings on xxR.
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I always wave back, but I've not grown up yet!
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My kids love it when they get a wave from the cockpit...the spottery types on the other hand look at the happy smiling kids as some sort of intrusion on their spottery goings-on!
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JonF you're absolutely correct, there isn't a full-length taxiway on that runway so it was designed to be used for 23L departures and 05R arrivals.

AircraftOperations - I think that if an emergency a/c landed and blocked a runway, it would be better to still have 23R available with the decent taxiway system etc
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JonF you're absolutely correct, there isn't a full-length taxiway on that runway so it was designed to be used for 23L departures and 05R arrivals.
Which is exactly what happened when I went to Paphos recently!
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adverse-bump

UR-ALGAY won't attract much attention. It's just a made up series or letters. Perhaps putting your 'phone number on your hand will get you more of a response. Personally, the anorak does nothing for me, but each to their own.
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