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Aurora Project

Old 3rd Sep 2009, 21:43
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Just a few niggles that remain 'unanswered'.

1). I understand the Gulfstream was flight planned in from & out to White Sands, New Mexico & registered to an Aerospace company affiliated to EG&G.

2). The C5 WASN'T already due in as it's assigned duty was changed while on the ground at 'The Hall'. It was due to fly full of freight from Mildenhall the next day but within hours of the Boscombe Incident it was re-assigned, crew briefed & they told the ground crew to defuel the aircraft as it was "...hopping about 30 mins down the road but didn't know if they could refuel there so they wanted enough to get there, get out again with the load & meet a tanker...". I met the Crew Chief at RAF Lakenheath Flying Club a couple of years afterwards & he was remarkably candid about things.

3). The reports of people living near Boscombe hearing a strange noise or strange aircraft landing that night in particular. It was a Tornado was it? That's hardly a strange type with a strange engine sound as Tonkas had operated into & out of Boscombe for years.
However an experienced ATCO working his radar unit saw a 7700 squark pop up & overheard the American pilot asking London Mil' for a Military or Government Airfield with an east/west orientated runway of 7000 feet or longer. He was given options in terms of bearing & distance before eventually settling on Bos'. The controller concerned is a long standing friend & ex-colleague of a good friend of mine, we all talked about the Boscombe Incident on a number of occasions.

4). I heard a US tanker crew member late one night in December 1995 over East Anglia commit the one embarrasment all pilots commit at one time or another which is transmit on the wrong box, which wasn't so embarrassing but his words ring clear to me to this day. There were 3 tankers Quid 51,52 & 53 returning to Mildenhall . And one of them said "...yeah, we've just heard, the bird is back in the barn...". We were north of Waddo at around 7-9000' & could see the strobes & lights at both the 'Heath & the 'Hall.

5). A former schoolmate of mine who works for BAe & knows the aforementioned ATCO was called to Boscombe to fix something on an aircraft being tested there & asked an official who stated he'd worked there since the late 80's about the night in question & if it was indeed a Tornado why hadn't his department at Warton heard about it or been involved in the post incident 'clean up'. Apparently his facial expression was a picture but he couldn't be drawn on the matter.

I'm not a 'Conspiracy Theorist' by any means & if anything, am pro-establishment. But I'm not totally convinced by the Tornado & Towed Decoy story. Especially after speaking to an ATCO, a senior USAFE Crew Chief & what I heard that cold winters night over East Anglia.

The truth is out there.... in a filing cabinet.
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 14:48
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I believe the Cruise/Kidman G4 had a registration something like N328KC not 604M
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 14:15
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For nearly 30 years UFO enthusiasts have been poring over a high-profile incident dubbed Britain's 'Roswell'.
But now a lorry driver has come forward to claim it was he who was responsible for the infamous UFO sighting near Woodbridge, Suffolk, in December 1980.
Peter Turtill, 66, said witnesses who reported to have seen strange lights were actually watching a truck filled with burning fertiliser.
Mr Turtill said he had been amazed at the way news of the explosive drama had snowballed over the years - triggering dozens of books, documentaries, outlandish stories and bizarre theories.
US Air Force personnel claimed a UFO had landed in Rendlesham Forest, leaving traces including inexplicable markings on the ground and acute radiation.
Lurid descriptions given by officers at the base have fuelled decades of fevered speculation and claims, with the area around the site said to be a portal or gateway for aliens visiting earth.

But Mr Turtill, of Ipswich, said: 'It really is a load of nonsense.
'There was no real fuss at the time and it was only later people started saying it was aliens and this story spiralled

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1211350/Britains-famous-UFO-burning-lorry-packed-stolen-fertiliser-says-driver.html#ixzz0QEn5cCPA
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 16:09
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I always doubted the Rendlesham stuff but one must ask, why has the lorry man left it so long?
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Hypothesised data

The name "Aurora" first appeared in a 1985 budget document with a line by that name slated to receive $80 million in FY 1986 and $2.2 billion in FY 1987. Since the item appeared just after the TR-1, many conjectured this project was a high-speed reconnaissance aircraft to replace the SR-71. As early as 1979, the Air Force had begun studying a "...Mach 4, 200,000-ft.-altitude aircraft that could be a follow-on to the Lockheed SR-71 strategic reconnaissance vehicle in the 1990s."
The Air Force, NASA, and several aerospace contractors undertook design studies of Mach 5 aircraft throughout the early and mid-1980s that may have supplied the basic information needed to develop such a concept. The principal difficulties these studies had to address were the development of engines able to power an aircraft at speeds exceeding Mach 5 and developing structures capable of surviving the intense aerodynamic heating experienced at such high speeds (see the Aerospaceweb.org Hypersonic Waverider site to learn more about high-speed flight).
If it does exist, many conjecture the Aurora may look something like the Mach 3 XB-70 Valkyrie or NASA's cancelled X-30 National Aerospace Plane (NASP). Both vehicles were wedge-shaped with delta wings of small area. Both combated heating issues by circulating onboard fuel along surfaces experiencing the greatest heat fluxes. While the XB-70 was propelled by conventional jet engines, the X-30 was to have been powered by advanced ramjet or scramjet engines using cryogenic fuels to operate at speeds exceeding Mach 5.
Based on this technological progression and close scrutiny of the US budget, many observers are convinced the US Air Force was able to develop, build, and test a large high-speed aircraft by the early 1990s. Shortly thereafter, reports of loud sonic booms and sightings of strange contrails over Great Britain and southern California began to surface. Some believe these reports provide further evidence of a very high-speed aircraft using some exotic form of propulsion. It is interesting to note, however, that these reports rapidly trailed off after 1996 suggesting that whatever vehicle mentioned in these sightings may have been only an experimental prototype no longer in use.
The US government has repeatedly denied the existence of an aircraft called Aurora or any similar follow-on aircraft to replace the SR-71. Since the evidence supporting the Aurora is circumstantial or pure conjecture, there is little reason to contradict the government's position. Data below estimated and completey conjectural
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HISTORY: First Flight possibly late-1980s Service Entry

existence unconfirmed

CREW: possibly two: pilot and systems officer



AIRFOIL SECTIONS: Wing Root unknown Wing Tip


DIMENSIONS: Length 115 ft (35 m) Wingspan 65 ft (20 m) Height 19 ft (6 m) Wing Area 3,200 ft2 (300 m2) Canard Area

not applicable

WEIGHTS: Empty 65,000 lb (29,480 kg) Typical Load unknown Max Takeoff 157,000 lb (71,215 kg) Fuel Capacity internal: 88,000 lb (39,920 kg)
external: not applicable Max Payload

4,000 lb (1,815 kg)

PROPULSION: Powerplant possibly turbofan engines for subsonic flight and
ramjets, scramjets, or pulse detonation engines for supersonic flight Thrust unknown

PERFORMANCE: Max Level Speed at altitude: possibly Mach 5 to Mach 8 (some suggest up to Mach 20)
at sea level: unknown Initial Climb Rate unknown Service Ceiling 131,000 ft (40,000 m) Range 8,000 nm (15,000 km) g-Limits unknown

ARMAMENT: Gun none Stations none Air-to-Air Missile none (although some suggest a long-range AAM like the AIM-54 Phoenix might be carried) Air-to-Surface Missile none Bomb none Other cameras, IR sensors, other recon sensors

KNOWN VARIANTS: Aurora Possible high-speed advanced reconnaissance platform


existence unconfirmed


United States (US Air Force)


<U>[edit] Steven Douglas sighting

On March 23, 1992, near Amarillo, Texas, Steven Douglas photographed the "doughnuts on a rope" contrail and linked this sighting to distinctive sounds. He described the engine noise in the May 11, 1992, edition of Aviation Week & Space Technology (p.62-63) as a:
“(...) strange, loud pulsating roar... unique... a deep pulsating rumble that vibrated the house and made the windows shake... similar to rocket engine noise, but deeper, with evenly timed pulses.”
In addition to providing the first photographs of the distinctive contrail previously reported by many, the significance of this sighting was enhanced by Douglas' reports of intercepts of radio transmissions:
“Air-to-air communications... were between an AWACS aircraft with the call sign "Dragnet 51" from Tinker AFB, Okla., and two unknown aircraft using the call signs 'Darkstar November' and 'Darkstar Mike.' Messages consisted of phonetically transmitted alphanumerics. It is not known whether this radio traffic had any association with the "pulser" that had just flown over Amarillo. (Darkstar is also a call sign of AWACS aircraft from a different squadron at Tinker AFB)”
A month later, radio enthusiasts in California monitoring Edwards AFB Radar (callsign "Joshua Control") heard early morning radio transmissions between Joshua and a high flying aircraft using the callsign "Gaspipe".
“You're at 67,000 ft, 81 miles out" was heard, followed by "seventy miles out now, 36,000 ft, above glideslope
At the time, NASA was operating both the SR-71 and the U2-R from Edwards, but it has been confirmed that neither of these types were flying at the time Gaspipe was heard.[5] Curtis Peebles claims in his book Dark Eagles that the intercepted radio transmissions were probably a prank on the part of Edwards security personnel.
[edit] Other sightings
  • In the highly disputed testimony of alleged physicist Robert Lazar, he claims that during his employ at the mysterious S-4 facility in Nevada, that he briefly witnessed an Aurora flight while aboard a bus near Groom Lake. He claimed that there was a "tremendous roar" which sounded almost as if "the sky was tearing." Though he only saw the physical craft for a moment through the front of the bus, he described it as being "very large" and having "two huge, square exhausts with vanes in them." Upon speaking with his supervisor, Lazar was said to have been informed that the craft was indeed an "Aurora," a "high altitude research plane." He was also told that the craft was powered by "liquid methane."[11]
  • In March 2006, the History Channel broadcast a television program called "An Alien History of Planet Earth" which examined UFO reports in the context of secret military aviation programs. During the program, aviation journalist Nick Cook presented a satellite image of the continental U.S. showing a contrail allegedly originating in Nevada and extending over the Atlantic Ocean. The contrail was unusual, as it appeared different from other contrails visible on satellite images. The craft that produced those contrails was not visible on the image. Based on the details of the image, it was speculated that it indicated an aircraft flying at a speed of around 7,000 mph (Mach 10.5, or 11,265 km/h).
  • In December 2006, a Video was filmed of a "doughnuts on a rope" contrail after hearing a supersonic boom that seemed to vibrate very viciously.
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Project Condign

Project Condign

Related ArticlesDocuments in the files reveal that there were high level defence officials in the 1990s who believed UFOs could be spacecraft piloted by extraterrestrials who could even be conducting "tourist" visits to earth.
In 1993, an RAF Wing Commander lobbied MoD officials about the need for a properly funded study.
He told them: "The national security implications (of UFOs) are considerable. We have many reports of strange objects in the skies and have never investigated them."
He added: "If the sightings are of devices not of earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority. There has been no apparently hostile intent and other possibilities are: (1) military reconnaissance, (2) scientific, (3) tourism."
The Wing Commander, whose name is blanked out in the documents, said the MoD could learn from the craft.
"If the reports are taken at face value then devices exist that do not use conventional reaction propulsion systems, they have a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy. I suggest we could use the technology, if it exists."
The internal debate in the MoD came to a head in 1995, when documents were made public revealing that UFO reports were routinely copied to specialist "Defence Intelligence" branches.
An exasperated intelligence office wrote to the UFO Desk: "I see no reason for continuing to deny that (Defence Intelligence) has an interest in UFOs.
"However, if the association is formally made public, then the MoD will no doubt be pressurised to state what the intelligence role/interest is.
"This could lead to disbelief and embarrassment since few people are likely to believe the truth that lack of funds and higher priorities have prevented any study of the thousands of reports received."
Dr Clarke said: "Some of these officials, like the Wing Commander, obviously believed in some pretty weird stuff. He doesn't seem to have any evidence for his theories, but seems to have just been watching the X Files, like everyone else at the time.
"These are senior officials and yet they believe some pretty bizarre things."
An inquiry, Project Condign, was eventually launched in 1996, apparently without the knowledge of then defence secretary Michael Portillo. It was completed in 2000 under Geoff Hoon.
The report found: "That (UFOs) exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take-off, accelerate to exceptional velocities and vanish, they can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamic characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft of missile – either manned or unmanned."
It went on that, although they existed, UFOs presented no threat to defence.
It found that many sightings of UFOs were in fact "plasmas" of gas caused by charges of electricity in the atmosphere.
The author even suggested that exposure to plasmas could cause responses in parts of the brain that lead to elaborate hallucinations that might be interpreted as supernatural experiences of encounters with aliens.
The inquiry examined seven "near misses" involving RAF aircraft and "unexplained aerial phenomenon".
The unnamed author concluded that "the possibility exists that a fatal accident might have occurred in the past" as a result of aircrew avoiding a UFO.
The study recommended that pilots should make "no attempt. to out manoeuvre a UAP during interception".
"Britain's Roswell"
This occurred in the early hours of December 26, 1980, in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, near two military bases used by the US Air Force: RAF Woodbridge and RAF Bentwaters.
US security personnel from the bases ventured into the forest after they spotted unusual lights that they feared could be a crashed aircraft. They reported seeing a strange glowing object which moved off through the forest.
Dr Clarke said the files from the National Archives, at Kew, showed the authorities had missed the opportunity to fully investigate the incident.
"There was clearly a missed opportunity to investigate properly here," he added.
Earlier this month, Peter Turtill, 66, from Ipswich, claimed that he had caused the scare by burning a lorry full of fertiliser.
However, his claim has been met with scorn by some ufologists.
Dr Clarke added: "There have been other people claiming responsibility for whatever happened in Rendlesham Forest. There is so much ambiguity about the incident and that is because there was not enough done at the time to look into it."
Britain's X Files: RAF suspected aliens of "tourist" visits to Earth - Telegraph
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Old 21st Sep 2009, 14:18
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Sadly, none of those links work (for me)... Maybe somebody, or something, has been at work...........
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Watch @2:33 of this USAF ISR history video and make up your minds

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