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747 low flyby

Old 13th Aug 2008, 03:21
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747 low flyby

Amazing that no-one has even mentioned this one, while the last TAP flyby took lots of pages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6s0pBqIriwges.


Again not the flyby itself, but the turn afterwards is questionable.
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 03:25
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 03:29
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ok,

Try this one:

Low Pass 747 - Airwork

A dutch forum containing the clip
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YouTube - 747 Acrobatic Aerosur Torisimo ORIGINAL VIDEO ¨HQ¨¨
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the turn afterwards is questionable

. . . . . and your point is. . . ?

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its simply dangerous. he got lucky
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The pilot previously worked for CX!!

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Answers to the name of Maverick I believe...
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. . . . . and your point is. . . ?


Point is:
This is a similar situation like the TAP one and yet it got no coverage at all on PPRuNe. I was just wondering why?
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 07:39
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Cool!

At least there are still some real pilots out there instead of lawyers, managers, beancounters and chickensh!t buttonpushers!

Stop moaning from your ivory tower, instead enjoy a cool video!
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 07:46
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Couldn't agree more..............puts the magic back into flying

Bravo
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 08:42
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You guys just don't get it, do you?

We command big jets because we can exercise restraint and operate within the boundaries we are given.

I, too, would love to do aeros and low passes in a B744 but it is simply against all our training and contrary to the whole ethos within which we operate.

Like it or lump it.
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Answers to the name of Maverick I believe...
Cool! At least there are still some real pilots out there instead of lawyers, managers, beancounters and chickensh!t buttonpushers!
Stop moaning from your ivory tower, instead enjoy a cool video!
Couldn't agree more..............puts the magic back into flying Bravo
When asked by a reporter to comment on the fly-by Capt Jesse Rhodes and First Officer Richard Peter Cesarz who were real pilots and both answered to the name "Maverick" declined to comment.


Edit: Jesse Rhodes and Peter Cesarz did not comment because they are dead! They pushed the aircraft they were in to the limits and they were not test pilots.

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Old 13th Aug 2008, 08:57
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In the 744 sim I tried to beat that record short t/o, circuit and landing time set by an ex-red arrow/VS guy (45 secs airborne or something)

I rotated, thought I was well clear of the ground and whacked on a load of bank

Game over... caught a wing tip and cartwheeled in. I thought - 'no way'; but was assured it was so.

Its a wingy beast - I got taught a lesson there.
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 09:07
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Yes, once again we see, people in the LHS of an aircraft that should not really be there, as demonstrated in the video clip. Who were they trying to impress?! Certainly didn't impress me.

Very often it is a case, or a mixture of, SPS (small p****s syndrome), lack of air experience, no discipline etc., etc.

Agreed the "turn off the deck" was even more alarming. By the grace of God, and not skill, all this could have ended in tragedy.

It also demonstrates the "relative simplicity" of beautiful Boeing aircraft. However it is a 2 edged sword, that allows chumps like that to be at the controls of said aircraft.

East european and ex mil? My money is on that.

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Old 13th Aug 2008, 09:33
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Nag Nag Nag,

It was an air show demonstration in the third world in a more golden age.

In those great days before the nanny society showed up, the chief pilot would have smirked for the record and said: "Don't do that again" and then bought them both a beer in the bar.

But here in the great government pushbutton world of tomorrow, most pilots couldn't hand fly their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it (which is pretty much the danger pax face today every time the autopilot fails).....
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Old 13th Aug 2008, 09:44
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I see children of the nanny state are alive and well.
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Really laughing at pacplyer!

It was an air show demonstration
An airshow demonstration of what?

A demonstration to everyone how the seating pitch was greater than on other airlines?

The food was better?

They were the most punctual airline in the region?

They could low level bomb the arrival airport and bank away before the SAM's got them?

Being honest, large passenger aircraft do not do "displays" well. They do not do anything "sexy"

And the pilots should not try to!


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Not quite nanny state, but those waving their pinkies do have a very valid point.

However, considering he was slow, properly set up and rotated before banking, with a low roll rate, I would suggest this Pf was no chump and had a prety good idea how to perform a low energy manouver that looks nice and doesn't put any stress on his aircraft. (Unlike the poor B52 crew who were g'd into the park).....

I've seen a lot worse, from proper test pilots as well.
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