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Old 28th Nov 2007, 15:40
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Nightime prop flying high over MAN area

I'm hearing (but not seeing) a prop over the MAN area most (if not all) weeknights between 21.30 and 22.00 (local) and would be interested to know what it is. Not sure what direction it flies either, I'm afraid - but am fairly sure that it isn't flying to/from MAN.

It is not the GMP surveillance aircraft - I presume it is a turboprop and flying above FL100, but am only guessing.

My thoughts were that it might be an Electra/F27/ATR type aircraft on a nightly cargo route - as it's pretty late for a scheduled pax op - but I'd like to know route and aircraft if possible.
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It may be G-MANH on the Shannon-East Mids run (i think), it's an ATP. I have him on the SBS quite a bit between those times.

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I often see one or more of the MNG F27s (Turkish)based at Coventry, appearing on my SBS late on.
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Late-running Flybe Dash 8.

Bit too early to be the Electra mail run to/from Aldergrove.
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Thanks a lot.

I'll look into schedules for the above suggestions to see what matches up.

Had forgotten about the ATPs.
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G-MANH is the only prop that i get with full tracking. It comes from WAL (near liverpool) then flies south of Manchester into east mids.
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Sam Man - The ATP flies from Cork to East Mids arriving at 2150L. It also goes out of EMA to Amsterdam and back before returning to Cork at 5am.

Man777 - The 2 MNG F27 you see are going between Bristol and Newcastle. They both pass each other about the same time doing 1 sector a night.
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The ATP is Atlantic Airlines and the MNG is contracted to AA hence both using Neptune callsigns

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Cheers TenAndie...

Knew it was somewhere in Ireland
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Similar query here....a high but quite loud prop flies over N. london most nights about 0030/0045 any ideas?

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The answer is in a thread somewhere in here James... search for it...

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Im pretty certain it's a Lockheed Electra out of Liverpool. Hear it all the time.
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I hear it too!

I saw it a few evenings ago. I'm about 25 nm's north west of the MCT (near the WTN TACAN) and it was following the airway DCS-MAN so I would say it was probably from GLA/EDI/PWK/ABZ heading south. As far as types go I don't think it's an F27 as it doesn't sound like a RR Dart. It sounds a bit too bass-ish or throaty for a Dart. It sounds a little like a RR Tyne or even a Kutznetsov turbo prop which I think may be an AN12 or AN24/26. I think there may be some eastern european operators that operate night freight/postal contracts within the UK. It may be one of those.
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I could tell you but, then I'd have to kill you!
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Pretty sure it's not an Eastern European Antonov type aircraft as I don't believe there are any on long-term contracts on routes which fly close to MAN. There is at least one An-26 up in Scotland flying domestic routes nightly.

ATP/Electra sounds most likely I'd say.
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Could it possibly be BE20's flying from/into Walney Island (Barrow-in-Furness)?

They normally fly over North Manchester at FL130-FL160

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Think I saw it tonight, at 21.25 to 21.30 just south east of MAN/MCT on a heading of approx 070-090 I'd say.

Couldn't tell a/c type or altitude from the lights though.
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Could it possibly be BE20's flying from/into Walney Island (Barrow-in-Furness)?
Walney Island Airport closes quite often so I wouldn't imagine it would be flying around at that time.
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BTW, Does anyone know where I can get flight schedules for the Night Freight flights.

I would like a Timetable guide to freight flights for DHL, ATLANTIC AIRLINES, UPS etc.

I cannot find anything on Google.
Many Thanks.
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I've been attempting to put one together, am slowly gathering info on the UK flights, expanding into Europe. Currently including Royal Mail, DHL, UPS, Fedex and TNT and a few other contracts.

I have found that MNG F27 flies CVT-DUB-CVT overnight so that could be a possible one to transit over the MAN area? Don't know the times but it is NPT420/421.
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