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Forum Rules
There is no charge for joining the PPRuNe Forums! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.
The Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe) is a community of professional pilots and people who work in aviation, both experienced and inexperienced. Your behaviour here, and ours, can be summed up in four words: “Mi casa, su casa” (my house is your house).
The PPRuNe Forums are a place where it's okay to be yourself as long as you always act with respect for your fellow members as well as PPRuNe staff. Our goal will be to treat our members as we would wish to be treated. In return, we ask that you act here as you would if you were face to face with the other members. You are not expected to leave your personality at the door. There are going to be topics and discussions that will have heated debates. Please think before you post and re-read what you type before you post it. Keep your comments limited to the debate at hand and do not make this a personal issue between you and another member.
There is tremendous diversity in age, race, gender, language, location (worldwide). There will be a lot of varying opinions on different subjects. We're all human beings and we're all drawn to this site because we have a common bond as pilots, cabin crew, air traffic controllers, engineers, technicians or just interested parties. We will willingly listen to your suggestions and complaints, and try to incorporate your ideas into PPRuNe. If you come across any violations to these guidelines or have any problems navigating the site, do not hesitate to let us know through the Contact Us Form or the 'caution' link near the bottom left corner of every post. We'll be happy to address your concerns. Here at PPRuNe we encourage everyone to participate in and enjoy the forums while at the same time adhering to these Guidelines:
Be Welcoming!
When newcomers arrive, welcome them to our growing community. Many of our community's senior members are a wealth of knowledge and have much to share. Help new members learn about how to find information and resources, save time, and how to get involved in the Community.
Be Courteous!
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully... without insult and personal attack.
Be Cautious!
Think before you post or speak: Do you really want to put your or someone else's address or telephone number on a public discussion forum? We encourage you to keep personal information personal. In the same vein, do not ask for personal information from others. Discussion forum posts that request members to submit personal information to another party will be removed. Information that should be considered personal includes but is not limited to your home phone number, name, and age. If you must give this out for any reason, please do so privately.
Be Appropriate!
There may be places where explicit, obscene or vulgar language, graphics or behavior is appropriate however the PPRuNe is not one of them. Discussion forum posts that contain explicit, obscene or vulgar language will be removed. Similarly, discussion forum posts that solicit or offer explicit or X-rated GIFs, JPEGs or similar content files will be deleted without notice!
Be Ethical!
The PPRuNe website: resources, articles and discussions are based on basic, appropriate professional ethical behaviour. Unethical behaviour: use of other boards member lists for PM invites, email invites, spamming, warez, license sharing, and other illegal activities are completely inappropriate and will result in the loss of membership at PPRuNe.
No Cross-Posting
Do not post the same discussion more than once on a discussion forum or on many forums. Duplicate discussions are frustrating and counterproductive for other members, especially for those whose time and energy is limited. Duplicate discussions will be deleted.
No Advertising – Spam
Do not heedlessly place your advertisements through the Discussion Forums. This will be considered SPAM and could result in the loss of your PPRuNe Forums Membership. Affiliate links are not allowed within the forums. If you wish to promote a particular program then promote the program not your own affiliate tie with it.
No Abuse of PM
Private Messaging is provided to the members of PPRuNe as a service intended to enhance the Community experience. The purpose of private messaging is to allow for discreet conversations to take place between members. This privilege is not to be abused! Solicitation, spamming, or harassment of any kind is strictly forbidden. Any member receiving an inappropriate private message should forward that message to an Administrator or Moderator immediately. Although private messages are normally only accessible by those who send and receive them, they are part of the database and as such, property of PPRuNe. An Administrator, if so inclined, could locate the Private Messages in the database and read them. They are private, but not necessarily secret. In addition, Private Messages are not intended to deprive the Community of valuable information or experiences which could benefit the entire group. Please do not use private messages if the content of the message can be helpful to others.
No Copyrighted Material
Information copyrighted or owned by any individual or entity other than the member should not be posted on the discussion forums without the consent of the owner. If such an event occurs, the individual posting the information shall be held solely responsible. PPRuNe shall not be held responsible for member-posted information that may violate copyright law. You cannot legally post entire articles or news in the forum without permission from the copyright holder. Even if you attribute the article correctly it’s still copyright infringement. Copyright law does not care if you make any money off of the work or not, what matters is if you hurt the potential income of the copyright holder. In this case you would be depriving them of ad revenue and it is illegal. Under Fair Use provisions you can legally post a small abstract of an article - or perhaps the opening paragraph. So if you want to post an article you should do this and include a link, or just post the link. The exception to this rule is press releases; press releases are meant for distribution and can be copied and distributed as much as you want. If you are not sure if you can copy something then always err on the side of caution and simply post a link to the material.
PPRuNe Discretion
PPRuNe and its assigned agents reserves the right to remove a post which does not relate to the topic being discussed in the forum. In addition, PPRuNe reserves the right to organise discussion forums in order to best serve the majority of our members. For example, narrow-interest or minimal activity topics may, at our discretion, be relocated to a more appropriate discussion forum, or deleted entirely. PPRuNe or its assigned agents also reserves the right to prohibit or delete discussions that are thought to violate applicable law or that may be harmful to other members, the websites that comprise PPRuNe or the rights of PPRuNe or others. That said, we cannot ensure prompt removal of offending discussion forum posts. We also reserve the right to remove your membership from you should you violate these Guidelines.
Considering the real-time nature of this bulletin board, it is impossible for PPRuNe to review all messages or confirm the validity of information posted. Please remember that PPRuNe does not actively monitor the contents of all posted messages and is not responsible for any messages posted. PPRuNe does not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and is not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of PPRuNe or any entity associated with PPRuNe.
Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. PPRuNe has the ability to remove objectionable messages and will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if it is determined that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however, so please realise that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately, in fact, we may not edit or delete posts that break our rules at all. We have many time constraints on us and cannot guarantee that we will be able to edit or delete posts that break the rules/user agreement. If you do not agree with this then do not view or register for PPRuNe.
Although this PPRuNe does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at PPRuNe reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless PPRuNe, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited (the makers of the bulletin board software), and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). We at PPRuNe also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.
Use of the site is at the discretion of the Administration of PPRuNe, and that any use may be terminated by the Administration at any time. PPRuNe is a provider of an "interactive computer service". Postings on PPRuNe are "provided by another information content provider" and not PPRuNe unless posted by the owner. PPRuNe is not the "publisher or speaker" of any posts in the discussion forums unless posted by the owner. The user agrees as a condition of registering at PPRuNe to be truthful in regard to all information given during the registration process, to use the site as per the instructions, not to disclose their password to others for use, and that the site has a license (permission) for use of anything the user submits or posts to the site.
Forum Rules
There is no charge for joining the PPRuNe Forums! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.
The Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe) is a community of professional pilots and people who work in aviation, both experienced and inexperienced. Your behaviour here, and ours, can be summed up in four words: “Mi casa, su casa” (my house is your house).
The PPRuNe Forums are a place where it's okay to be yourself as long as you always act with respect for your fellow members as well as PPRuNe staff. Our goal will be to treat our members as we would wish to be treated. In return, we ask that you act here as you would if you were face to face with the other members. You are not expected to leave your personality at the door. There are going to be topics and discussions that will have heated debates. Please think before you post and re-read what you type before you post it. Keep your comments limited to the debate at hand and do not make this a personal issue between you and another member.
There is tremendous diversity in age, race, gender, language, location (worldwide). There will be a lot of varying opinions on different subjects. We're all human beings and we're all drawn to this site because we have a common bond as pilots, cabin crew, air traffic controllers, engineers, technicians or just interested parties. We will willingly listen to your suggestions and complaints, and try to incorporate your ideas into PPRuNe. If you come across any violations to these guidelines or have any problems navigating the site, do not hesitate to let us know through the Contact Us Form or the 'caution' link near the bottom left corner of every post. We'll be happy to address your concerns. Here at PPRuNe we encourage everyone to participate in and enjoy the forums while at the same time adhering to these Guidelines:
Be Welcoming!
When newcomers arrive, welcome them to our growing community. Many of our community's senior members are a wealth of knowledge and have much to share. Help new members learn about how to find information and resources, save time, and how to get involved in the Community.
Be Courteous!
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully... without insult and personal attack.
Be Cautious!
Think before you post or speak: Do you really want to put your or someone else's address or telephone number on a public discussion forum? We encourage you to keep personal information personal. In the same vein, do not ask for personal information from others. Discussion forum posts that request members to submit personal information to another party will be removed. Information that should be considered personal includes but is not limited to your home phone number, name, and age. If you must give this out for any reason, please do so privately.
Be Appropriate!
There may be places where explicit, obscene or vulgar language, graphics or behavior is appropriate however the PPRuNe is not one of them. Discussion forum posts that contain explicit, obscene or vulgar language will be removed. Similarly, discussion forum posts that solicit or offer explicit or X-rated GIFs, JPEGs or similar content files will be deleted without notice!
Be Ethical!
The PPRuNe website: resources, articles and discussions are based on basic, appropriate professional ethical behaviour. Unethical behaviour: use of other boards member lists for PM invites, email invites, spamming, warez, license sharing, and other illegal activities are completely inappropriate and will result in the loss of membership at PPRuNe.
No Cross-Posting
Do not post the same discussion more than once on a discussion forum or on many forums. Duplicate discussions are frustrating and counterproductive for other members, especially for those whose time and energy is limited. Duplicate discussions will be deleted.
No Advertising – Spam
Do not heedlessly place your advertisements through the Discussion Forums. This will be considered SPAM and could result in the loss of your PPRuNe Forums Membership. Affiliate links are not allowed within the forums. If you wish to promote a particular program then promote the program not your own affiliate tie with it.
No Abuse of PM
Private Messaging is provided to the members of PPRuNe as a service intended to enhance the Community experience. The purpose of private messaging is to allow for discreet conversations to take place between members. This privilege is not to be abused! Solicitation, spamming, or harassment of any kind is strictly forbidden. Any member receiving an inappropriate private message should forward that message to an Administrator or Moderator immediately. Although private messages are normally only accessible by those who send and receive them, they are part of the database and as such, property of PPRuNe. An Administrator, if so inclined, could locate the Private Messages in the database and read them. They are private, but not necessarily secret. In addition, Private Messages are not intended to deprive the Community of valuable information or experiences which could benefit the entire group. Please do not use private messages if the content of the message can be helpful to others.
No Copyrighted Material
Information copyrighted or owned by any individual or entity other than the member should not be posted on the discussion forums without the consent of the owner. If such an event occurs, the individual posting the information shall be held solely responsible. PPRuNe shall not be held responsible for member-posted information that may violate copyright law. You cannot legally post entire articles or news in the forum without permission from the copyright holder. Even if you attribute the article correctly it’s still copyright infringement. Copyright law does not care if you make any money off of the work or not, what matters is if you hurt the potential income of the copyright holder. In this case you would be depriving them of ad revenue and it is illegal. Under Fair Use provisions you can legally post a small abstract of an article - or perhaps the opening paragraph. So if you want to post an article you should do this and include a link, or just post the link. The exception to this rule is press releases; press releases are meant for distribution and can be copied and distributed as much as you want. If you are not sure if you can copy something then always err on the side of caution and simply post a link to the material.
PPRuNe Discretion
PPRuNe and its assigned agents reserves the right to remove a post which does not relate to the topic being discussed in the forum. In addition, PPRuNe reserves the right to organise discussion forums in order to best serve the majority of our members. For example, narrow-interest or minimal activity topics may, at our discretion, be relocated to a more appropriate discussion forum, or deleted entirely. PPRuNe or its assigned agents also reserves the right to prohibit or delete discussions that are thought to violate applicable law or that may be harmful to other members, the websites that comprise PPRuNe or the rights of PPRuNe or others. That said, we cannot ensure prompt removal of offending discussion forum posts. We also reserve the right to remove your membership from you should you violate these Guidelines.
Considering the real-time nature of this bulletin board, it is impossible for PPRuNe to review all messages or confirm the validity of information posted. Please remember that PPRuNe does not actively monitor the contents of all posted messages and is not responsible for any messages posted. PPRuNe does not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and is not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of PPRuNe or any entity associated with PPRuNe.
Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. PPRuNe has the ability to remove objectionable messages and will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if it is determined that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however, so please realise that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately, in fact, we may not edit or delete posts that break our rules at all. We have many time constraints on us and cannot guarantee that we will be able to edit or delete posts that break the rules/user agreement. If you do not agree with this then do not view or register for PPRuNe.
Although this PPRuNe does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at PPRuNe reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless PPRuNe, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited (the makers of the bulletin board software), and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). We at PPRuNe also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.
Use of the site is at the discretion of the Administration of PPRuNe, and that any use may be terminated by the Administration at any time. PPRuNe is a provider of an "interactive computer service". Postings on PPRuNe are "provided by another information content provider" and not PPRuNe unless posted by the owner. PPRuNe is not the "publisher or speaker" of any posts in the discussion forums unless posted by the owner. The user agrees as a condition of registering at PPRuNe to be truthful in regard to all information given during the registration process, to use the site as per the instructions, not to disclose their password to others for use, and that the site has a license (permission) for use of anything the user submits or posts to the site.
