Boeing 727 Operators... any left???
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I saw one sitting on the cargo ramp at EDI this morning. Only from a distance though but it appeared to be one of the short ones in white with green on the tail. Any idea who operates this and what is reg is??
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I am sure the 727 can fly still within the EU but unless Stage 3 hushkitted it cannot serve a number of major airports and only under exemptions can it fly pax but as a private jet or cargo there are few conditions. I do recall last summer there was a bit of publicity surrounding MUFC travelling from MAN to USA on a private 727 which may be the property of the American owners of MU.
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Al, a B-727 Pilot
Hi My name is Al and I flew the B-727 10 years. Let me say it was quite a machine to fly. One of the fastest Commercial jobs ever built.
Cruise Mach 84. In decent below 25,000 indicated airspeed of 420 Kts.
Flew into Saint Thomas many times when the runway was 4600 feet with a 500 foot overrun. Could stop and turn of at mid field or just a little beyond, sometimes. The B-727-100 could stop at max landing weight in 1600 feet
and we were very light with a VREF Speed of 108 Kts.
A fabulous aircraft to say the least
Cruise Mach 84. In decent below 25,000 indicated airspeed of 420 Kts.
Flew into Saint Thomas many times when the runway was 4600 feet with a 500 foot overrun. Could stop and turn of at mid field or just a little beyond, sometimes. The B-727-100 could stop at max landing weight in 1600 feet
and we were very light with a VREF Speed of 108 Kts.
A fabulous aircraft to say the least
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Any idea what the one at Biggin is being used for... hured it land the other day! Dam it made some loud sounds!!!!
I am flying tomorow I shall try and grab a photo of it!
Tom
I am flying tomorow I shall try and grab a photo of it!
Tom
The Valsan conversion replaced #1 and #3 with JT8D-217s and left #2 a -7 without a reverser. Some of them have since been upgraded to -219s and I know one has a -17 in the center. I can not imagine how that plane must go. Dee Howard put RR Tays on all three positions and there is a lot of new pneumatic plumbing in the back end. And the cockpit was updated.
Vmo was .90, I've been up to .885. Ours were limited to 350 kts, light weights could go for 400. A great plane for what it was designed to do, go 200-1500 miles between smaller airports when fuel was 10 cents a gallon. Some of the VIP planes have aux tanks to the point almost half the TO weight is fuel, pushing 80,000 pounds of Jet A. I'd hate to sign that reciept at today's rates.
Vmo was .90, I've been up to .885. Ours were limited to 350 kts, light weights could go for 400. A great plane for what it was designed to do, go 200-1500 miles between smaller airports when fuel was 10 cents a gallon. Some of the VIP planes have aux tanks to the point almost half the TO weight is fuel, pushing 80,000 pounds of Jet A. I'd hate to sign that reciept at today's rates.
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Oh God, don't get me started about talking about 727s. I flew 727s for ten years as well, ended up with a little over 7,000 hours in it.
Simply put, you could do things in the 727 that just could not be done in its rivals. I did get to fly a -200 with the full Valsan conversion, now with a light load that thing was a rocket. You did have to be very careful not to out climb the wing.
There are some sport teams, mostly professional basketball teams, that operate 727s here in the US today. I've been in a couple, they were the full Valsan conversion and had glass cockpits.
If won a huge lottery I would buy a corporate 727 to run around the world in.
Agree with all of the above, it was astonishing just how fast you could stop a 727. Even with flaps 30, now with flaps 40 in a -100 it was even more astonishing.
My only two complaints on the 727 is where they put the APU, I do understand why they placed it where it is, I just wished it was back in the tail. My other complaint is the main landing gear, I wish that were four tires per boogie rather than two, if Boeing had done that, there are a lot more airports that you could operate at that is now prohibited because of the weight foot print, which is about the highest of any airliner, especially the 200A. We had a regular RON in Phoenix and we had to park on metal plates at the FBO or we would sink into ramp.
I miss flying the 727 more than another aircraft.
Simply put, you could do things in the 727 that just could not be done in its rivals. I did get to fly a -200 with the full Valsan conversion, now with a light load that thing was a rocket. You did have to be very careful not to out climb the wing.
There are some sport teams, mostly professional basketball teams, that operate 727s here in the US today. I've been in a couple, they were the full Valsan conversion and had glass cockpits.
If won a huge lottery I would buy a corporate 727 to run around the world in.
Flew into Saint Thomas many times when the runway was 4600 feet with a 500 foot overrun. Could stop and turn of at mid field or just a little beyond, sometimes. The B-727-100 could stop at max landing weight in 1600 feet
and we were very light with a VREF Speed of 108 Kts.
A fabulous aircraft to say the least
and we were very light with a VREF Speed of 108 Kts.
A fabulous aircraft to say the least
My only two complaints on the 727 is where they put the APU, I do understand why they placed it where it is, I just wished it was back in the tail. My other complaint is the main landing gear, I wish that were four tires per boogie rather than two, if Boeing had done that, there are a lot more airports that you could operate at that is now prohibited because of the weight foot print, which is about the highest of any airliner, especially the 200A. We had a regular RON in Phoenix and we had to park on metal plates at the FBO or we would sink into ramp.
I miss flying the 727 more than another aircraft.
Still Flying
Lovely aircraft. 
I still get to fly a 200 every day I go to work.
Although with possible staff cuts pending does anyone know of 727 operators looking for crew?
I still get to fly a 200 every day I go to work.
Although with possible staff cuts pending does anyone know of 727 operators looking for crew?
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You could try MK Airlines in Bristol, England.
This was a reply to cockpit junkie by the way.
This was a reply to cockpit junkie by the way.
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My other complaint is the main landing gear, I wish that were four tires per boogie rather than two, if Boeing had done that, there are a lot more airports that you could operate at that is now prohibited because of the weight foot print, which is about the highest of any airliner, especially the 200A. We had a regular RON in Phoenix and we had to park on metal plates at the FBO or we would sink into ramp.
Actually, do wonder if some of the trident3a's observations at LHR might be Tu-154M's used by Rossiya as presidential transport.
Actually, do wonder if some of the trident3a's observations at LHR might be Tu-154M's used by Rossiya as presidential transport.
The 2 727s most often in are A9C-BA & HZ-SKI