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Well i have a SBS-1 and love it! Haven't tried a Air Nav Radar Box so i can't give my opinion on it.
I couldn't live without my SBS, i just love it! Real time aircraft on the display, easy to view, love it!
Sam
I couldn't live without my SBS, i just love it! Real time aircraft on the display, easy to view, love it!
Sam
RAF on 121.5 asking a/c to divert
Hi guys alawys have my scanner on at work dinner times, today on 121.5 heard somthing along the lines of "HM gov command you to divert and land at valley"
Nothing heard on the news????
Nick.
Nothing heard on the news????
Nick.
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The end of "Topjet"
Any truth in the rumour that the Mytravel rout of Thomas Cook is complete now that they have killed off the "Topjet" callsign? Have heard that Thomas Cook is to be changed to "Kestrel".
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As it stands.................
Currently still using MYT and TCX flight numbers during winter and from May 1st 2008 all flights will be on TCX flight numbers. A number of TCX aircraft (B757's) have transfered to the MYT AOC in the last few weeks the last being transfered in Feb.
Once all is complete the MYT AOC will then become the TCX AOC (all confusing i know but there are reasons behind it)
From what i can gather the "Topjet" callsign will remain however i have also heard a rumour that there maybe a new callsign so who knows?????
Currently still using MYT and TCX flight numbers during winter and from May 1st 2008 all flights will be on TCX flight numbers. A number of TCX aircraft (B757's) have transfered to the MYT AOC in the last few weeks the last being transfered in Feb.
Once all is complete the MYT AOC will then become the TCX AOC (all confusing i know but there are reasons behind it)
From what i can gather the "Topjet" callsign will remain however i have also heard a rumour that there maybe a new callsign so who knows?????
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Strange flight number at AMS
Anyone got any idea who was operating (was it a charter perhaps?) a flight indicated as destined for Liverpool on an X3 flight number? I've had a search and cant find any info on this flight, but the code seems to belong to TuiFly, but they dont advertise LPL as a destination...puzzling! Was on one of the F gates which seem to be reserved for heavies too...any info appreciated
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BHX 17/12 - EZ-A014 (Turkmenistan) - WHAT WAS HAPPENING
16:40 hrs Loud jet noise over SOLIHULL - put on SBS Unit and saw EZ-A014 (Turkmentistan) weaving on my screen making an s shape print out on the SBS ...first right then left ....i.e. showing a ZIG ZAG on the SBS and was as low as 1,900ft.(Alt displayed on SBS) it then turned back on itself and climbed to 3,000 (Alt displayed on SBS) back towards HON.......noticed that it intercepted glide path on 33 and eventually landed......Anyone shed any light on what happened ???????? -
Further info Person listening to 131.0 (B'ham Director) - The pilot of the a/craft though he was on the ILS but was 2 miles off track.........he was told to tune to 131.0 (B'ham Director) - the Pilot had left the mic open and 'heavy breathing' was heard...eventually vectored onto 33 and landed
Further info : The SBS doesnt account for QNH and due to the QNH yesterday being 1035 at the time, this equates to a 660ft difference from the standard pressure of 1013 (which is what the SBS calculates altitudes from) which actually puts the aircraft at 2500ft. 1900+660ft = 2560ft -
whilst it answers the question of the readout on the SBS - there may be a few more unanswered questions regarding the track and the missed approach...........Given the fact the Pilot was over Birmingham City Centre
Further info Person listening to 131.0 (B'ham Director) - The pilot of the a/craft though he was on the ILS but was 2 miles off track.........he was told to tune to 131.0 (B'ham Director) - the Pilot had left the mic open and 'heavy breathing' was heard...eventually vectored onto 33 and landed
Further info : The SBS doesnt account for QNH and due to the QNH yesterday being 1035 at the time, this equates to a 660ft difference from the standard pressure of 1013 (which is what the SBS calculates altitudes from) which actually puts the aircraft at 2500ft. 1900+660ft = 2560ft -
whilst it answers the question of the readout on the SBS - there may be a few more unanswered questions regarding the track and the missed approach...........Given the fact the Pilot was over Birmingham City Centre
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Im not a pilot but by the sounds of it he was making the S turns to try and waste some time for an aircraft on the runway? Then eventually going around by the sounds of it.
I've not seen it happen for a while, but it's deffinatly a method they use to waste some time for the aircraft infront.
I've not seen it happen for a while, but it's deffinatly a method they use to waste some time for the aircraft infront.
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Many thanks for your observation but there was no a/c in front...in fact the Turmenistan 757 made a u turn back on itself to line up for the 33 approach.....it also does not account for the frequemcy that it was on.....the sequence at BHX is 118.05 Radar...then 131.0 for the Director if needed...then 118.3 for the tower and 121.8 Ground - the only one that was being used by the ATC Controller was 131.0 until the a/craft landed - If you can recall there was an incident no so long back near to the HON beacon when an a/c from the same part of the world had set a wrong QNH
Couple with my SBS observation there was also a friend monitoring the 131,0 freq and heard 'heavy breathing' coming from the cockpit due to the mic being left open..............MAKES YOU THINK EH ????????
Couple with my SBS observation there was also a friend monitoring the 131,0 freq and heard 'heavy breathing' coming from the cockpit due to the mic being left open..............MAKES YOU THINK EH ????????
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listening to mr Plod
hi
The comment About passing on information received brings to mind a few years ago while watching the Farnborough display a group of youngsters listening to ATC within earshot of a policeman no problem at all until he was receiving a message on his radio when One of them decides to retune his radio to see what was going on at Full volume . A Right Nasty glare as a very unfriendly chat followed so there is always the lunatic fringe that could spoil things .
The Police now have digital technology so listening in is not I understand easy but these days you can Never Tell
Tony
The comment About passing on information received brings to mind a few years ago while watching the Farnborough display a group of youngsters listening to ATC within earshot of a policeman no problem at all until he was receiving a message on his radio when One of them decides to retune his radio to see what was going on at Full volume . A Right Nasty glare as a very unfriendly chat followed so there is always the lunatic fringe that could spoil things .
The Police now have digital technology so listening in is not I understand easy but these days you can Never Tell
Tony
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Manchester ATC - Internet
Hello all.
I was wondering if there is a site about that hosts live ATC from Manchester?
Despite only being 6 miles away i get a crap signal and cannot listen to it (only planes on approach). I would of thought as MAN has a huge number of spotters it may have been hosted somewhere.
I checked http://www.liveatc.net/ but with no luck.
If not, has anyone thought about doing it?
If so, it'd be highly appreciated
Sam
I was wondering if there is a site about that hosts live ATC from Manchester?
Despite only being 6 miles away i get a crap signal and cannot listen to it (only planes on approach). I would of thought as MAN has a huge number of spotters it may have been hosted somewhere.
I checked http://www.liveatc.net/ but with no luck.
If not, has anyone thought about doing it?
If so, it'd be highly appreciated
Sam
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Your posting is extremely unwise. The Wireless telegraphy Act prohibits the monitoring of air band transmissions. The publication of any messages which may be heard by illegal monitors is also illegal. Check the "sticky" at the top of the ATC section: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=206063
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Ahhhh right thanks! Didn't realize there was such a law.
With the paranoid yanks allowing it i'd expect the British to allow it
Ah well, i'll stick with my SBS!
Sam
With the paranoid yanks allowing it i'd expect the British to allow it
Ah well, i'll stick with my SBS!
Sam
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Your posting is extremely unwise. The Wireless telegraphy Act prohibits the monitoring of air band transmissions.The publication of any messages which may be heard by illegal monitors is also illegal.
It is illegal to go over 30mph in built up area in the UK, yet it happens
It is illegal for a taxi (Hansen cab) to drive over London Bridge without a bail of hay in the boot, yet it still happens!
Of course you are quite right in saying its illegal (as with all the crimes listed above) but will the authorities ever enforce the law?
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It is illegal to drive over 70mph on motorways in the UK, yet it happens, (infact its hard to find anyone going under 70mph)
It is illegal to go over 30mph in built up area in the UK, yet it happens
It is illegal for a taxi (Hansen cab) to drive over London Bridge without a bail of hay in the boot, yet it still happens!
Of course you are quite right in saying its illegal (as with all the crimes listed above) but will the authorities ever enforce the law?
It is illegal to go over 30mph in built up area in the UK, yet it happens
It is illegal for a taxi (Hansen cab) to drive over London Bridge without a bail of hay in the boot, yet it still happens!
Of course you are quite right in saying its illegal (as with all the crimes listed above) but will the authorities ever enforce the law?
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They will enforce the law if you flout it openly infront of 'them'
The comment About passing on information received brings to mind a few years ago while watching the Farnborough display a group of youngsters listening to ATC within earshot of a policeman no problem at all until he was receiving a message on his radio when One of them decides to retune his radio to see what was going on at Full volume . A Right Nasty glare as a very unfriendly chat followed so there is always the lunatic fringe that could spoil things