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. I do not fly turboprops but I suspect also that windmilling props may require a touch more than double the height?
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From: UK
BOAC - But the props shouldn't be windmilling, should they?
Once you've run the checks they'll be feathered and causing minimal drag.
Never done it (thankfully) but was told to expect 1000ft/min ROD, and it wouldn't be that far off the usual 2-3 miles per 1000ft alt.
Once you've run the checks they'll be feathered and causing minimal drag.Never done it (thankfully) but was told to expect 1000ft/min ROD, and it wouldn't be that far off the usual 2-3 miles per 1000ft alt.
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From: Madrid, Spain
BA 757 CPET UG Door problem
Hi All,
Was on the 460 service from LHR to MAD today and after boarding we were told that due to a UG Door problem reported by the inbound crew we would be delayed for a while as it was being checked out by an Engineer.
Then a little later on the captain informed us that in fact the said UG door would not have closed after takeoff and that the plane was to be taken out of service. They promptly moved us to another 757 (ED) and got us to Madrid only 55 mins late.. Well done BA !!
Does anyone know what was up with the UG Door on ET? I saw when leaving the aircraft via steps at the rear door seeing the R/H Main UG door open so I guess that was the one in question??
Again, well done to BA, we were very impressed at the speedy recovery...
A.
Was on the 460 service from LHR to MAD today and after boarding we were told that due to a UG Door problem reported by the inbound crew we would be delayed for a while as it was being checked out by an Engineer.
Then a little later on the captain informed us that in fact the said UG door would not have closed after takeoff and that the plane was to be taken out of service. They promptly moved us to another 757 (ED) and got us to Madrid only 55 mins late.. Well done BA !!
Does anyone know what was up with the UG Door on ET? I saw when leaving the aircraft via steps at the rear door seeing the R/H Main UG door open so I guess that was the one in question??
Again, well done to BA, we were very impressed at the speedy recovery...
A.
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Disgusted of Tunbridge
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From: Hampshire, UK
I think the problem was 'it wouldn't close after ATO' (that's 'after take-off' to those of us in the industry). No sir, you don't want to be up there with an UG door open! Whatever it is.
Could this be the first positive thread about BA this year?
Could this be the first positive thread about BA this year?
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From: Madrid, Spain
Apologies, I see now that it should have been in the spotters corner forum.
I am not in the industry and don't pretend to be either, was simply asking if anyone knew what exactly was wrong at the time. Just interested thats all. I fly with BA all the time at this was the first time that I was caught up in a minor technical issue.... just wanted to learn more about it....
I am still fairly new to PPrune, so please forgive us newbies if we post in the wrong forum at times....
Thanks.
A.
A=Adam
I am not in the industry and don't pretend to be either, was simply asking if anyone knew what exactly was wrong at the time. Just interested thats all. I fly with BA all the time at this was the first time that I was caught up in a minor technical issue.... just wanted to learn more about it....
I am still fairly new to PPrune, so please forgive us newbies if we post in the wrong forum at times....
Thanks.
A.
A=Adam
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I am not in the industry and don't pretend to be either, was simply asking if anyone knew what exactly was wrong at the time. Just interested thats all. I fly with BA all the time at this was the first time that I was caught up in a minor technical issue.... just wanted to learn more about it....
I am still fairly new to PPrune, so please forgive us newbies if we post in the wrong forum at times....
I am still fairly new to PPrune, so please forgive us newbies if we post in the wrong forum at times....
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From: South Africa
A340 Flying With Landing Gear Down
Hi all, I am new here and observed something yesterday that puzzled me, so I had to ask about this.
Yesterday at 18H28 pm a Airbus A340 took off from runway 21r at O.T. International and the landing gear never retracted for as far as I could see. I ran to my car and grabbed the camera, but it was so far, the photos are very bad. If anyone knows why the gear was out for so long, please let us know. I couldn't see what airline it was.
Yesterday at 18H28 pm a Airbus A340 took off from runway 21r at O.T. International and the landing gear never retracted for as far as I could see. I ran to my car and grabbed the camera, but it was so far, the photos are very bad. If anyone knows why the gear was out for so long, please let us know. I couldn't see what airline it was.
Last edited by damagecontrol; 4th January 2007 at 09:38. Reason: forgot to mention airport
makes sence!!!
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From: Worldwide
The wheels are rotating at about 900 rpm on takeoff, normally on retraction brakes are automatically applied to stop the wheels from spinning.
If they have a brake unserviceable, the procedure is to keep the gear down for 2 minutes so the wheels can have a chance to stop spinning before retraction.
If they have a brake unserviceable, the procedure is to keep the gear down for 2 minutes so the wheels can have a chance to stop spinning before retraction.
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From: San Jose
Full Power Before Brakes Off
I had the fun of flying out of Cork this evening. I thought it was a short runway (but it seems to be 6000') for a near-full 738 because the engines were wound right up with the aircraft shaking before the brakes got released with a thunk (and something clattering in the galley) and there wasn't much runway left as we got airborne. An interesting takeoff, anyway, is this normal for Cork?
Oh, and several minus points to whoever thought up the silly fanfare played to celebrate the on-time arrival of yet another flight, especially as we then sat on the taxiway at STN for a few minutes while an outbound aircraft cleared the gate area.
Oh, and several minus points to whoever thought up the silly fanfare played to celebrate the on-time arrival of yet another flight, especially as we then sat on the taxiway at STN for a few minutes while an outbound aircraft cleared the gate area.
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From: San Jose
It probably wasn't full power, but it was certainly more than other recent flights I've been on,which is why I noticed it.
As for the delay at the end, I suspect we just brought Murphy along with us and he applied his law because we'd just had the daft fanfare when we stopped and waited a few minutes. In compensation, we did get the gate closest to the terminal so there was less walking to do. It was the new shed at north end of STN, so it's fairly recent investment. We obviously arrived about the time someone else pushed back and had to be disconnected from the tug and run his engines up before getting out of the way.
As for the delay at the end, I suspect we just brought Murphy along with us and he applied his law because we'd just had the daft fanfare when we stopped and waited a few minutes. In compensation, we did get the gate closest to the terminal so there was less walking to do. It was the new shed at north end of STN, so it's fairly recent investment. We obviously arrived about the time someone else pushed back and had to be disconnected from the tug and run his engines up before getting out of the way.
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From: flyover country USA
Safe touchdown & rollout - http://wbztv.com/
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From: Central London
KLM engine failure
From the Eastern Daily Press
Plane made emergency stop in Norwich
30 August 2007 19:09
A KLM flight to Rotterdam had to make an emergency landing at Norwich Airport after its crew reported an engine failure.
The plane took off from Heathrow shortly before 6pm on Wednesday with 32 passengers and four crew on board.
When the captain realised there was a problem he was told to divert to Norwich International for an unscheduled stop.
Bart Koster, KLM spokesman, said: “It landed normally and the passengers and crew disembarked and were rebooked on flights to their destination. The plane remains at Norwich where ground crew have been sent to inspect it and discover what the problem was.
“It is rare but not so rare that we don't know what to do when it does happen. Although there was a failure in the engine it did not mean the plane would not have made it to Rotterdam but the captain took the decision to make a stop and get it checked out.”
Plane made emergency stop in Norwich
30 August 2007 19:09
A KLM flight to Rotterdam had to make an emergency landing at Norwich Airport after its crew reported an engine failure.
The plane took off from Heathrow shortly before 6pm on Wednesday with 32 passengers and four crew on board.
When the captain realised there was a problem he was told to divert to Norwich International for an unscheduled stop.
Bart Koster, KLM spokesman, said: “It landed normally and the passengers and crew disembarked and were rebooked on flights to their destination. The plane remains at Norwich where ground crew have been sent to inspect it and discover what the problem was.
“It is rare but not so rare that we don't know what to do when it does happen. Although there was a failure in the engine it did not mean the plane would not have made it to Rotterdam but the captain took the decision to make a stop and get it checked out.”
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From: Anderlecht
Hmm, not entirely sure it was a KLM flight. Isn't VLM flying the route (with some flights operating as KLM codeshare flights)?
Presumably, it was suggested to him by ops to divert to NWI where FK50 maintenance facilities are available.
When the captain realised there was a problem he was told to divert to Norwich International for an unscheduled stop.