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When an Afghan Airbus went off the runway at LTBA a little while ago and it proved difficult to move, the airport authorities just hacked it up to get it out of the way. Considering the value (or lack thereof) of the RJ hulls could this Jumbolino go the same way? 
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Had this happen a few years ago to a flybe 146 (although possibly not as bad as this one). We ended up ferrying it out to Exeter unpressurised. It's a pretty tough structure, having said that you have to be careful when the ribs and stringers are damaged near the tail.
Probably not a good idea to scrap it, RJs are currently in quite high demand (although 146s are on the way out now, it seems).
Probably not a good idea to scrap it, RJs are currently in quite high demand (although 146s are on the way out now, it seems).
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Not quite sure how it is causing delays to other aircraft? Please explain how this is, as I can't see from where it is parked to cause other effects.
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During peak times its highy unlikely that a tech a.c on a stand will be get a chance to be towed due to the stream of a.c on the taxi way or entering or exiting the Jet center.
However supose it would cause problems the next morning etc.
What are the options they have for this aircraft? its obvious that the a.c isn't going to be flown out . . .
However supose it would cause problems the next morning etc.
What are the options they have for this aircraft? its obvious that the a.c isn't going to be flown out . . .
Some strange comments here.
Came through LCY 8 pm last night and it was still all-stands full, unusual well into the evening. But that was nothing to do with the incident aircraft, which is shoved into the far corner by the fire trainer where AOG aircraft are always put.
From the taxyways and from the road there seems no visible damage to the aircraft so it would be unlikely to be unrepairable.
Came through LCY 8 pm last night and it was still all-stands full, unusual well into the evening. But that was nothing to do with the incident aircraft, which is shoved into the far corner by the fire trainer where AOG aircraft are always put.
From the taxyways and from the road there seems no visible damage to the aircraft so it would be unlikely to be unrepairable.
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plenty more spares
More a problem for LCY parking than for swiss - rumour has it they only have crews for 13 of the 22 they have - at least at LCY its not paying parking elsewhere but a case for the insurance funds
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I'm sure LCY Ops are charging Swiss for the parking arrangements.
Friend of mine who works in the Hotel opposite says the aircraft has had the "Swiss" part of the a.c covered over now also.
Friend of mine who works in the Hotel opposite says the aircraft has had the "Swiss" part of the a.c covered over now also.
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From the taxyways and from the road there seems no visible damage to the aircraft so it would be unlikely to be unrepairable.
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Where else could they move it at LCY. I exspect they have spoken about the possibilty of using a stand for the duration and covering cost, but this would be ££££. They seem buggered, hense how no work has been done for one week now.
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Costs - What comes cheaper and how much visibility do you want
Interesting problems
Is a parked plane negative advertising or just no problem?
How to fix it and what comes cheaper in the end - disassemble into road haulage chunks and take to somewhere else to fix or scrap for spares - fix it pronto on-site (3-shift working with an inflateable hangar ) - or risk flying it out ? What would be your choice - and does anybody really know just how bad the real damage is?
Watch this space
P.S.: How's about a ruddy great Barge alongside the airport and tow it across onto said barge - then it can be floated off to wherever - problem here is probably to find a wherever to unload the bloody thing where it can be repaired.
but the parking bill might be lower!
Is a parked plane negative advertising or just no problem?
How to fix it and what comes cheaper in the end - disassemble into road haulage chunks and take to somewhere else to fix or scrap for spares - fix it pronto on-site (3-shift working with an inflateable hangar ) - or risk flying it out ? What would be your choice - and does anybody really know just how bad the real damage is?
Watch this space
P.S.: How's about a ruddy great Barge alongside the airport and tow it across onto said barge - then it can be floated off to wherever - problem here is probably to find a wherever to unload the bloody thing where it can be repaired.
but the parking bill might be lower!
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Didn't anyone think of this problem when they designed a short strip with a 5.5% glide slope? Someone. sometime was going to smack a tail. Putting bigger and bigger aircraft in there ( ie the RJ100/146-300) only precipitates the inevitable. Didn't they think that it might, just might, be impossible to fly them out sooner rather than later?
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heard on the street 20 frames or so are damaged, will need to be jacked up as the a/c cannot position out at all.
latest is the aircraft may be put onto a barge & placed over on the prepared surface where the redbull area was for the 3 months or so to repair it. The airport are very reluctant to let them have a stand for that long to then put a temp hangar over it.
watch this space.
latest is the aircraft may be put onto a barge & placed over on the prepared surface where the redbull area was for the 3 months or so to repair it. The airport are very reluctant to let them have a stand for that long to then put a temp hangar over it.
watch this space.
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Would it not be possible (perhaps its uneconomical to do so) to remove the wings and stick it on a low loader to remove to a more suitable maintenance establishment? With the wings off it wouldnt be especially wide...