Ferry Aircraft Between LGW and LHR
Did you know a PA28-140 can't quite keep up with an Inter City train ?
Motorways on the other hand are no trouble to follow, the formation is much wider and the sideslopes are kept clear of trees etc.
Only exception is when there are long railway straights, but these are unusual. A well known one is the line which is dead straight from Redhill, near Gatwick, to Folkestone, it was followed by cross-channel flights in the 1920s/30s operating out of Croydon, when they painted the names in big letters on the station roofs specifically to help air navigation. Presumably removed once the Luftwaffe were likely to come over !
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to clarify im not naieve enough to believe he actually followed the m4 down from heathrow, the captain in question chose to simplify the route rather than quote the waypoints to an engineer who wouldnt have understood the intricaceys of the atc system. in much the same way as i explained a simplified version of the satcom and cmc syatems to him as he wouldnt have understood the full technical version.
not every1 usuing this board has the benefit of being either atc or flight crew so scoffing at a dumbed down ansewer, not intended as an exhaustive guide mearly a rough idea (remember this is in the spotters area not flight crew or atc areas), is both arrogant and misjudged.
not every1 usuing this board has the benefit of being either atc or flight crew so scoffing at a dumbed down ansewer, not intended as an exhaustive guide mearly a rough idea (remember this is in the spotters area not flight crew or atc areas), is both arrogant and misjudged.
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Hey bamcb... Don't take offence. The vast majority of people on here have a loony sense of humour even though they are mainly professionals. Your comment sure provoked some laughs though! Heard the story about an old lady asking an airline captain how he found he way in the dark? He told her there was a red light out of one window and a green light out of the other and he just steered the aeroplane between them!
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no offenece was taken, just i believe that this area is meant for use by the general public with a limited knowlage of the industry and being overly technical and mocking discourages queations from genuinly interested but unknowlageable passengers and spotters. there are specific atc and flight crew forums designed for the discussion of the your issues please at least leave this area accessable for joe public.
im not naieve enough to believe he actually followed the m4 down from heathrow
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Do what one of our Captains did whilst trying to get a 76 into St Athan for Maint. St Athan was fogged so he came into CWL. Once the fog cleared he simply 'booked' the a/c out with atc and flew it VFR.
I have never seen that before, no plogs nothing! Simply some perf' and he was away. Fun to watch to!!
Also seen some of our guys take 320's over from CWL to BRS. 3000ft for the 'cruise', fastest one of them did it was 8 minutes. That was a fun weekly race.....crusing with a dirty wing....
I have never seen that before, no plogs nothing! Simply some perf' and he was away. Fun to watch to!!
Also seen some of our guys take 320's over from CWL to BRS. 3000ft for the 'cruise', fastest one of them did it was 8 minutes. That was a fun weekly race.....crusing with a dirty wing....
