Diversion to LGW
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Just in case I'm missing something here, could someone confirm that I've got this correct.
Aircraft PVG-LHR diverts to LGW. Late in the evening departs LGW for STN. When airborne request diversion to LHR. When told that it is after the night jet ban, a low fuel 'emergency' is declared and the aircraft lands at LHR, the original destination.
Have I got anything wrong?
Airclues
Aircraft PVG-LHR diverts to LGW. Late in the evening departs LGW for STN. When airborne request diversion to LHR. When told that it is after the night jet ban, a low fuel 'emergency' is declared and the aircraft lands at LHR, the original destination.
Have I got anything wrong?
Airclues
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Well in that case I don't know why he was allowed to get airbourne from LGW. We were told that he was refused landing permission at LHR when on the ground at LGW and as far as we knew he was off to Stansted (strange I know!), but he did then divert in due fuel!
Plus, the captain is the final arbiter in making any decision regarding his flight. So, this means if LGW do indeed refuse him take-off clearance he can still get airbourne anyhow - I am pretty sure this didn't happen here but this is an extreme example!
Plus, the captain is the final arbiter in making any decision regarding his flight. So, this means if LGW do indeed refuse him take-off clearance he can still get airbourne anyhow - I am pretty sure this didn't happen here but this is an extreme example!
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POINT5
there is no 'u' in airborne - nor is there a 'me' or a 'we' in airborne without ATC clearance! Technically you are correct in that as a Captain I can get airborne without ATC clearance as 'the final arbiter', however, to do so would be against SOP's and my co-pilot(s) and would leave me open to a charge of endangering the aircraft and its occupants, as well as losing my job and having my licence revoked.
Perhaps at best, the CE crew are guilty of sharp practice and if so, the UKCAA and NATS and HAL will voice their views through HM Government, to the Chinese authority, but things are never as they appear. The routing PVG-LHR via LGW and STN is more like a Chinaman than a googly!
there is no 'u' in airborne - nor is there a 'me' or a 'we' in airborne without ATC clearance! Technically you are correct in that as a Captain I can get airborne without ATC clearance as 'the final arbiter', however, to do so would be against SOP's and my co-pilot(s) and would leave me open to a charge of endangering the aircraft and its occupants, as well as losing my job and having my licence revoked.
Perhaps at best, the CE crew are guilty of sharp practice and if so, the UKCAA and NATS and HAL will voice their views through HM Government, to the Chinese authority, but things are never as they appear. The routing PVG-LHR via LGW and STN is more like a Chinaman than a googly!
