clock change disruption
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clock change disruption
the skies over heathrow were jammed on sun morning with no real reason. after circling for 40 minutes i heard an american ask what the delay was and it turnedout to be the fact we had changed our clocks and the american traffic was arriving same time as the european traffic. well i suppose the airlines had only a few years to plan this?
when did this clock thing start?
when did this clock thing start?
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From: At home
Well we are only human........................
as I said to the captain of the ?????? who delayed his departure by over an hour early Sun AM, he got up late as he had forgot to change his clock!!
One pasenger did remark on whether it was safe to fly with this captain, if he couldn't do a simple thing like put a clock forward an hour, what chance did he have with an aircraft, I couldn't really argue with that!
as I said to the captain of the ?????? who delayed his departure by over an hour early Sun AM, he got up late as he had forgot to change his clock!!
One pasenger did remark on whether it was safe to fly with this captain, if he couldn't do a simple thing like put a clock forward an hour, what chance did he have with an aircraft, I couldn't really argue with that!
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From: Wet Coast
You are all aware that DST begins on different dates in N.America than Europe, I assume ? As mentioned though, it has done for years and yet still catches most Americans out 
I'll leave you to speculate on the reason(s) for this
I'll leave you to speculate on the reason(s) for this
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Hmmm, it's interesting to see how that problem can occur in an industry that runs on UTC.
Aggravated, I suppose, by the fact that the UK moved the clocks on Sunday 26th March and the parts of the USA that moves clocks at all does theirs on April 2nd. (Some parts of the USA don't bother to move - some parts do. Try keeping up with that in local time).
I guess it's only a mental thing that makes all the World want to have it's own days starting in local time. Would it not be easier if the whole World kept UTC (for example). It shouldn't be a problem starting my day here in Florida at 12:00 and finishing at 03:00 - just takes practice.
Aggravated, I suppose, by the fact that the UK moved the clocks on Sunday 26th March and the parts of the USA that moves clocks at all does theirs on April 2nd. (Some parts of the USA don't bother to move - some parts do. Try keeping up with that in local time).
I guess it's only a mental thing that makes all the World want to have it's own days starting in local time. Would it not be easier if the whole World kept UTC (for example). It shouldn't be a problem starting my day here in Florida at 12:00 and finishing at 03:00 - just takes practice.
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From: London & Edinburgh
I remember the days when the EU didn't synchronise the change, so that the whole of Europe didn't change their times either at exactly the same time (0100Z) or on the same day ...
The thing is this is confirmed well in advance, so the US folks should keep up (I can see this being binned to Jet Blast quickly).
Jordan
The thing is this is confirmed well in advance, so the US folks should keep up (I can see this being binned to Jet Blast quickly).
Jordan
) and therefore reduced capacity - or was this a big cover up because a few controllers overslept !!!
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From: The Winchester
millerman
Well we we hit LAM at around 10 AM ( BST 
) we were told 40 minutes because of the time change and the strong winds........in reality it was more like 15 minutes and the strong winds weren't.....(unlike tonight)
) we were told 40 minutes because of the time change and the strong winds........in reality it was more like 15 minutes and the strong winds weren't.....(unlike tonight)
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From: Blighty - On secondment
US springs forward this coming weekend but strangly both the US and EUrope ended DST on the same day last year. God help us next in 2007 when the US starts DST on March 11th...that will totally confuse them:-)
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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
from Wikipedia
Origin of Daylight Saving Time (DST)
It is sometimes asserted that DST was first proposed by Benjamin Franklin in a letter to the editors of the Journal of Paris. However, the article was humorous; Franklin was not proposing DST, but rather that people should get up and go to bed earlier.
It was first seriously proposed by William Willett in the "Waste of Daylight", published in 1907, but he was unable to get the British government to adopt it despite considerable lobbying.
The idea of daylight saving time was first put into practice by the German government during the First World War between April 30 and October 1, 1916. Shortly afterward, the United Kingdom followed suit, first adopting DST between May 21 and October 1, 1916. Then on March 19, 1918, the U.S. Congress established several time zones (which were already in use by railroads and most cities since 1883) and made daylight saving time official (which went into effect on March 31) for the remainder of World War I. It was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. The law, however, proved so unpopular (mostly because people rose and went to bed earlier than in current times) that the law was later repealed.
Origin of Daylight Saving Time (DST)
It is sometimes asserted that DST was first proposed by Benjamin Franklin in a letter to the editors of the Journal of Paris. However, the article was humorous; Franklin was not proposing DST, but rather that people should get up and go to bed earlier.
It was first seriously proposed by William Willett in the "Waste of Daylight", published in 1907, but he was unable to get the British government to adopt it despite considerable lobbying.
The idea of daylight saving time was first put into practice by the German government during the First World War between April 30 and October 1, 1916. Shortly afterward, the United Kingdom followed suit, first adopting DST between May 21 and October 1, 1916. Then on March 19, 1918, the U.S. Congress established several time zones (which were already in use by railroads and most cities since 1883) and made daylight saving time official (which went into effect on March 31) for the remainder of World War I. It was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. The law, however, proved so unpopular (mostly because people rose and went to bed earlier than in current times) that the law was later repealed.
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From: LHR/EGLL
It happens every year at this time. As has been mentioned, the yanks change to BST/DST after we do, so there's a period where their transatlantic traffic is coming over here an hour later. Aviation might run on zulu, but the passenger runs on Local, and that's what the airlines' scehdule their flights for......
