Wrong Taxiway
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Wrong Taxiway
Landed last night on a flyglobespan 736 at EDI.The man at the front went down the wrong taxiway,did a 180 degree turn and went back to park up at stance 21.
How serious is this viewed by atc and would he get his knuckles wrapped.No big deal to me but thought it a bit strange that the pilot doesn't know where he is going to.
How serious is this viewed by atc and would he get his knuckles wrapped.No big deal to me but thought it a bit strange that the pilot doesn't know where he is going to.
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How about if "he" (they) landed....rolled out....decieded to "back track" instead of taking "the long" way around...?? Maybe ATC made a misstake?? Maybe the taxiway was blocked by pink elephants???!!!
I know that the travelling public expects us to be perfect, but we're all human, and thus susceptible to the occasional helmet fire.
In any case, there are several reasons for this which may not be the result of crew error. Maybe their parking position changed and the crew was not informed until it was to late. Certainly nothing to get excited about, or that should cause someone to get their knuckles rapped.
Just my two cents.
Jeff
In any case, there are several reasons for this which may not be the result of crew error. Maybe their parking position changed and the crew was not informed until it was to late. Certainly nothing to get excited about, or that should cause someone to get their knuckles rapped.
Just my two cents.
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Arrived into Heathrow 12 March on QF flight from Singapore (Sydney). Was told on way over there would be no stand available so they were going to stretch out the flight to give some extra time for one to be freed up.
Landed and then told that despite delayed arrival, still no stand.
Whilst taxiing to apron from which a fully loaded 744 would be emptied onto buses, el capitan tells us there would be a stand after all.
I guess sh1t happens and things change.
The Wombat
Landed and then told that despite delayed arrival, still no stand.
Whilst taxiing to apron from which a fully loaded 744 would be emptied onto buses, el capitan tells us there would be a stand after all.
I guess sh1t happens and things change.
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No big deal to me but thought it a bit strange that the pilot doesn't know where he is going to.
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Remember people (CamelhAir and hobie particularly), there is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there is such a thing as an immature, ignorant, and downright abusive response.
Everybody has the right to ask questions here, not just the small elite of airline pilots. Until this forum becomes 'Airline Pilots Only', then kindly allow people to pose legitimate questions without interference or undue hostility.
If you don't like the question, then don't answer it, its as simple as that. Leave somebody else to give a constructive answer, instead of wasting space with your infantile verbal diahorrea.
Cabot, you're well within your rights to ask such a question. Pay no attention to those Ppruners who wish to spend their time putting other 'lesser mortals' down.
ETC
Everybody has the right to ask questions here, not just the small elite of airline pilots. Until this forum becomes 'Airline Pilots Only', then kindly allow people to pose legitimate questions without interference or undue hostility.
If you don't like the question, then don't answer it, its as simple as that. Leave somebody else to give a constructive answer, instead of wasting space with your infantile verbal diahorrea.
Cabot, you're well within your rights to ask such a question. Pay no attention to those Ppruners who wish to spend their time putting other 'lesser mortals' down.
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Actually, these backtracking events on taxiways happen quite frequently on airlines these days, particularly the low-cost carriers. The "Frequent Flier Miles" programs that have become so popular in the last couple decades are actually based on the accounting done for flight crews. Flight crews are paid per 100 miles per leg. It happens sometimes that an aircraft lands a couple miles short of a 100-mile increment on the sector. To roll-over, the captain will often take the "scenic route" to the stand/gate. Often this takes the form of an extra orbit around the terminal in ORD, or some claptrap about "the hispeeds" being "closed for maintenance" at PRG (exactly 697 miles from LHR, hence the proclivity for london flights to taxi all the way down the inactive before coming around to the terminal), or even the ubiquitous "our gate is in use".
When your flight does these things, it is customary for passengers to diminish the gratuity. I'd recommend giving the pilot no more than a fiver.
When your flight does these things, it is customary for passengers to diminish the gratuity. I'd recommend giving the pilot no more than a fiver.
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instead of wasting space with your infantile verbal diahorrea.
To accuse a Professional Pilot by stating "thought it a bit strange that the pilot doesn't know where he is going to" , on the basis of a Backtrack that anyone who spends more than 5 minutes at a busy Airport would recognise as being a far from uncommon maneuver , is in my view frankly unacceptable ......
I suppose, upon reflection, we should all be gratefull that the Local 'Gendarmerie' were not called to immediately Breath test the Crew for such outrageous behaviour ....
I notice the poor old 'Spotters' have been lumbered with the thread in question ..... my commiserations to them ....
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I don't think any of Edinburgh's taxiways are wide enough to do a 180degree turn? Any idea where you made it?
Simple change of stand is probably the reason though navigating to the stand in the dark is probably harder than flying across the North Atlantic in the dark!
Simple change of stand is probably the reason though navigating to the stand in the dark is probably harder than flying across the North Atlantic in the dark!
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Ask the Air Jamaica pilot at LHR a couple of weeks back, if he knew where he was going when he missed the turning, then decided he would try and make it, turned, ran the nose and main, and center gear across the grass, tried to carry on across the grass but stopped when the gear hit a concrete block. (A340-300)
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This one appears to be going nowhere.
For all those who have posted on this post the thread move at 1815 yesterday, until there is a change in policy at PPRune HQ this is the correct forum for such questions.
For all those who have posted on this post the thread move at 1815 yesterday, until there is a change in policy at PPRune HQ this is the correct forum for such questions.
