EI Unhappy Landings....help!
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it would be typical that Aer Rianta reaction to a runway "not aligned with prevailing winds" would be to build another in the same alignment
it would be typical that Aer Rianta reaction to a runway "not aligned with prevailing winds" would be to build another in the same alignment
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it would be typical that Aer Rianta reaction to a runway "not aligned with prevailing winds" would be to build another in the same alignment
One of the many hassles with 23 was that the departure profile took it over too many places with houses and the like, so the noise ( and (shhhh) safety ) aspects were an issue when they decided they needed a new runway. 23 was too short, there was no way to extend it towards Finglas without even bigger noise problems, and the other end the valley would have taken 10 years to fill, though I suppose if they'd made a municipal dump of the area it would have filled quicker, but then they'd have had seagull problems
28 isn't that bad for direction, the main hassle they can't do much about, unless you want to move the Wicklow mountains
.What would be more than helpful is if the relevant people would get off their hands and decide what is going to be done to avoid total grid lock within 5 miles of the airport. The problems airside are bad enough, then add to that the landside issues, and they've not helped that any with the recent changes to the departure road, all that is now is an accident waiting to happen.
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sorry for upsetting a couple of you flyboys there yesterday with my "stupid college" remark. I only speak ill of it because i'm absolutely dying to get at the controls.......and as for the pre flight announcment of tomorrow, id say it might go a little more somthing like this...
"good evening ladies and gentlemen my name is "ROBOPLANE1000"
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted(if you do)....it might not be there for too long. I'm studying geomatics, i wont go into it but there is alot of G.P.S study and as soon as the europeans and russians have their versions up and running.....it may(dont quote me) mean bye bye mr pilot because the industry standard sets safety parameters at 99.9% and the current G.P.S systems in use are not too far off......any takers??
"good evening ladies and gentlemen my name is "ROBOPLANE1000"
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted(if you do)....it might not be there for too long. I'm studying geomatics, i wont go into it but there is alot of G.P.S study and as soon as the europeans and russians have their versions up and running.....it may(dont quote me) mean bye bye mr pilot because the industry standard sets safety parameters at 99.9% and the current G.P.S systems in use are not too far off......any takers??
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sorry....but!
sorry for upsetting a couple of you flyboys there yesterday with my "stupid college" remark. I only speak ill of it because i'm absolutely dying to get at the controls.......and as for the pre flight announcment of tomorrow, id say it might go a little more somthing like this...
"good evening ladies and gentlemen my name is "ROBOPLANE1000"
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted(if you do)....it might not be there for too long. I'm studying geomatics, i wont go into it but there is alot of G.P.S study and as soon as the europeans and russians have their versions up and running.....it may(dont quote me) mean bye bye mr pilot because the industry standard sets safety parameters at 99.9% and the current G.P.S systems in use are not too far off......any takers??
"good evening ladies and gentlemen my name is "ROBOPLANE1000"
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted(if you do)....it might not be there for too long. I'm studying geomatics, i wont go into it but there is alot of G.P.S study and as soon as the europeans and russians have their versions up and running.....it may(dont quote me) mean bye bye mr pilot because the industry standard sets safety parameters at 99.9% and the current G.P.S systems in use are not too far off......any takers??
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I don't know if anybody is upset by perhaps some overstated posts by someone with extremely limited aviation experience, but multiple posts upset the moderators no end!
It's all very well trotting out the 'there will be no pilots needed soon' stuff. You talk about safety parameters of 99.9%. What about the other 0.1%? Get some experience of real life before preaching to us.
It's all very well trotting out the 'there will be no pilots needed soon' stuff. You talk about safety parameters of 99.9%. What about the other 0.1%? Get some experience of real life before preaching to us.
Safety standards of only 99.9%! So 1 flight in every thousand may end in disaster! Gulp!
Squigs, I happen to be in the rather strange position of teaching air transport AND geomatics. There is an awful lot of cr*p spouted about GPS, GLONASS, EGNOS and Galileo. It will be many, many years before we se the end of pilots.
Squigs, I happen to be in the rather strange position of teaching air transport AND geomatics. There is an awful lot of cr*p spouted about GPS, GLONASS, EGNOS and Galileo. It will be many, many years before we se the end of pilots.
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I would agree with Rainboe. Many moons - maybe 25+ years ago - a smart young graduate sat next to me in Heathrow Tower... told me he'd been "tasked" with finding a computer replacement for air traffic controllers. He was a well-meaning bloke, but wasn't particularly switched on and took umbrage when I politely suggested he'd be better employed working out the tea rota.
I wonder what he's doing now... and there are still air traffic controllers doing a superb job, largely out of their brains with little help from computer chips.... and they're likely to be continuing to do so long after I've gone.
I wonder what he's doing now... and there are still air traffic controllers doing a superb job, largely out of their brains with little help from computer chips.... and they're likely to be continuing to do so long after I've gone.
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I was going to reply earlier to the little squibs post, but I was too angry and the mods would have binned it...
In fact, I'me still too angry...
No chance - go back to school, you don't appear to have learnt a thing yet..
R
In fact, I'me still too angry...
I only speak ill of it because i'm absolutely dying to get at the controls.......
R
Irish Steve, until they build a realistic airport somewhere else and include the required infrastructure nothing will change. Too many small picture halfwits making (and influencing) the decisions IMHO...
Sqiggs, it won't happen anytime soon, many punters are nervous enough with pros at the controls, tell them they're going to be flown by a machine & watch 'em march.
Sqiggs, it won't happen anytime soon, many punters are nervous enough with pros at the controls, tell them they're going to be flown by a machine & watch 'em march.
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haha...i thought pilots were meant to be in control...not freaking out at supposedly inexperienced individuals like myself!? Quite the reception my theory recieved...flattered was I?? Yes i only put forward the idea. The posts that followed were slightly daunting...were some pilots a "bit" annoyed? ......does air rage exist in the cockpit as well as economy?
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Squigs,
Your post is going to offend and anger people because it is phrased like an 8 year old kid trying to pick a fight in the school yard. If you want to start a debate with the Pros here - probably best to do so in a mature and mutually respectful way. (bearing in mind that you haven't even graduated yet)
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted
That's not an opinion - thats a warning. Listen to yourself, a college kid posting on a professional Pilot website with warnings for guys here with half your lifetime spent in an airplane. Seriously, read your posts back to yourself before you click the submit button again - and have a bit of respect. If you have any chance of getting 'at the controls' you will need that.
Your post is going to offend and anger people because it is phrased like an 8 year old kid trying to pick a fight in the school yard. If you want to start a debate with the Pros here - probably best to do so in a mature and mutually respectful way. (bearing in mind that you haven't even graduated yet)
.............my opinion is dont take your comfortable position for granted
That's not an opinion - thats a warning. Listen to yourself, a college kid posting on a professional Pilot website with warnings for guys here with half your lifetime spent in an airplane. Seriously, read your posts back to yourself before you click the submit button again - and have a bit of respect. If you have any chance of getting 'at the controls' you will need that.
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I think you will find that if you ignore him/her, then they might go away. It has been said time and time again, responding merely encourages posters like that.
Use the 'ignore' function if it helps - 'member list', 'squigs', 'add to ignore list.'
Users of this forum may not be used to such posters, but they infest other forums.
I do not feel that a ban is appropriate - yet!
Use the 'ignore' function if it helps - 'member list', 'squigs', 'add to ignore list.'
Users of this forum may not be used to such posters, but they infest other forums.
I do not feel that a ban is appropriate - yet!
