Aer Lingus to order 3 A380's
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You have a few posts to bring this topic back to a level that removes childish rants, bickering and backbiting - not to mention abuse and insults.
I have removed Jim from the argument and Bmused55 is pushing it - and you can be censored! Gentlemen, behave like one please.
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I have removed Jim from the argument and Bmused55 is pushing it - and you can be censored! Gentlemen, behave like one please.
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"After all, how difficult would it really be to pack a couple of A340s or B747s off to Filton for a repaint and to set up "Virgin Ireland" , complete with shamrocks, blarney and extra leprechauns?
Branson would revel in it. He'd probably dye his beard green for the launch party"
Funny cause it's true...I can just see the beard now
Branson would revel in it. He'd probably dye his beard green for the launch party"
Funny cause it's true...I can just see the beard now
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actually the Bearded One has already done the green Virgin thing.
If the Virgin Pacific thing doesn't come off there may be 340-300s looking for homes as the 346 and 380s are delivered - one of them is now calling LOS home!
If the Virgin Pacific thing doesn't come off there may be 340-300s looking for homes as the 346 and 380s are delivered - one of them is now calling LOS home!
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Bearded One has already done the green Virgin thing
The bearded one also tried Virgin Ireland with Club Travel, not to mention Virgin Express Shannon, so who knows, 3rd time lucky
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The bearded one also tried Virgin Ireland with Club Travel, not to mention Virgin Express Shannon, so who knows, 3rd time lucky
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Don't forget his attempts to code share with Virgin Cityjet back in 1994..... I'll let you guys see the photo's on airliners
Sorry akerosid, I have to disagree, I don't think Branson will bother with the restrictions on the size of his aircraft.
is this true near enuf, last time they operated that route, the loads were terrible, I didn't think they wanted to try that one again.
Anybody think it would be a better idea if an American Airline operated a so called hub out of DUB. I remember talking with some friends about the idea of North West moving their operation out of Amsterdam and bringing it to Dublin with connections being served by Air France, at least Dublin would be suitable for their 330's. opinions...anybody
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Which brings me to bmi/Virgin. I see a UK airline (possibly others) taking advantage of the new open skies deal; I don't think it will be BD, since they have an acft shortage. I do, however, see a distinct possibility that VS could be interested
GF to start Bah - Dub from the 1st of December!
Anybody think it would be a better idea if an American Airline operated a so called hub out of DUB. I remember talking with some friends about the idea of North West moving their operation out of Amsterdam and bringing it to Dublin with connections being served by Air France, at least Dublin would be suitable for their 330's. opinions...anybody
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When you say restrictions on the size of acft that can be used, what do you mean? There'll be no regulatory restrictions, but there may be runway restrictions. Is this what you mean?
I don't think runway length is a major issue on t/a flights; even an A340-300 can fly most routes from DUB and the -600 would have significantly better performance.
I do think, however, that if EI isn't ready, it's a market ripe for the taking. It's a potentially very good market, held back only by internal political considerations, so once those shackles are removed and if the incumbent carrier isn't in a position to take advantage of the opportunity - through a combination of a poor service product and not actually having sufficient aircraft to operate new routes, other airlines will be watching.
I feel that it is most likely to be the small, dynamic private companies which will jump in, rather that state carriers like AF (although it might well be possible that Cityjet would wet lease some AF A330s/340s?)
I don't think runway length is a major issue on t/a flights; even an A340-300 can fly most routes from DUB and the -600 would have significantly better performance.
I do think, however, that if EI isn't ready, it's a market ripe for the taking. It's a potentially very good market, held back only by internal political considerations, so once those shackles are removed and if the incumbent carrier isn't in a position to take advantage of the opportunity - through a combination of a poor service product and not actually having sufficient aircraft to operate new routes, other airlines will be watching.
I feel that it is most likely to be the small, dynamic private companies which will jump in, rather that state carriers like AF (although it might well be possible that Cityjet would wet lease some AF A330s/340s?)
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Regarding Australia, I heard recently from someone that works in tourism that more Irish people have been visiting Australia year on year over the last number of years than any other Nationality except the British. This on the face of it seems a dubious statisitc but when I think back to my visits to OZ it doesn't seem that suprising. (Ever been to County Bondi
??)
So, any prospective market would be a lower end (fare-wise) and high density. Which would appear to fit the current EI 2 Class Long-Haul offering?
Someone wondered why EI doesn't codeshare on existing OZ routes with BA/QF/CX. Seems strange! I believe with better connection in LAX a one stop DUB-LAX-SYD/MEL/BNE/AKL are all possible with EI/QF saving considerable time over a DUB-LHR/FRA-SIN/BKK/HKG-OZ.
??)So, any prospective market would be a lower end (fare-wise) and high density. Which would appear to fit the current EI 2 Class Long-Haul offering?
Someone wondered why EI doesn't codeshare on existing OZ routes with BA/QF/CX. Seems strange! I believe with better connection in LAX a one stop DUB-LAX-SYD/MEL/BNE/AKL are all possible with EI/QF saving considerable time over a DUB-LHR/FRA-SIN/BKK/HKG-OZ.
