Aer Lingus to order 3 A380's
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Sky_Captain : As somebody said earlier, its about fuel saving these days, and in particular for EI its about cost savings. From what I hear the 787 is the best idea for most of the US routes, and the 777 ideal for JFK and any future 12 hour plus long haul routes.
Great picture by the way Bmused, looks good in the green
Great picture by the way Bmused, looks good in the green
Glad you like the picture. A little something I did a while back for another forum.
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Right:
1. Your atttitude is the same attitude that landed us with the current inadequately long runway. The plans drawn up are for a runway that isn't long enough. Go ask the DAA!
2. There will be no extra routes into the States unless the USA agree to change the bilateral. Regardless of what Aer Lingus say. And the US officials only want to talk to the EU about Open Skies.
3. The ORD flight routes SNN-DUB-ORD and v.v. thereby complying with the stopover.
4. If EI is not floated for another 2 years there will be no capital injection to buy the shiny new airplanes you have gone on about!
Now what else?
1. Your atttitude is the same attitude that landed us with the current inadequately long runway. The plans drawn up are for a runway that isn't long enough. Go ask the DAA!
2. There will be no extra routes into the States unless the USA agree to change the bilateral. Regardless of what Aer Lingus say. And the US officials only want to talk to the EU about Open Skies.
3. The ORD flight routes SNN-DUB-ORD and v.v. thereby complying with the stopover.
4. If EI is not floated for another 2 years there will be no capital injection to buy the shiny new airplanes you have gone on about!
Now what else?
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Well Mark if you ever do become a commercial pilot in the future, be sure to apply for Ryanair as they're always welcoming to people like yourself(.ie an arrogant b***ocks) and I'm sure you'd get along quite well with O'Leary too.
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It's funny you should say that...they'll be my first port of call if I'm ever lucky enough to get there as I'd like to be based in Dublin. Who knows, maybe we'll have an airport I can be proud of then!
If you're ever on a FR flight in a few years and you hear me introduce myself as the FO, ask a FA can you go up to the flight deck and I'll be able to show you what all the buttons do.
If you're ever on a FR flight in a few years and you hear me introduce myself as the FO, ask a FA can you go up to the flight deck and I'll be able to show you what all the buttons do.
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If you're ever on a FR flight in a few years and you hear me introduce myself as the FO, ask a FA can you go up to the flight deck and I'll be able to show you what all the buttons do.
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Best of luck with your aspirations Mark!
Hope it works out for you.
Edit. Jim, now grow up! I hear it's a beautiful day outside in Ireland, go out and enjoy it, stop the childish bickering, there is enough of it already.
Hope it works out for you.
Edit. Jim, now grow up! I hear it's a beautiful day outside in Ireland, go out and enjoy it, stop the childish bickering, there is enough of it already.
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Best of luck with your aspirations Mark!
Hope it works out for you.
Edit. Jim, now grow up! I hear it's a beautiful day outside in Ireland, go out and enjoy it, stop the childish bickering, there is enough of it already.
Hope it works out for you.
Edit. Jim, now grow up! I hear it's a beautiful day outside in Ireland, go out and enjoy it, stop the childish bickering, there is enough of it already.
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You're dam right it's a nice day here...not a cloud in the sky. God bless laptops and wireless routers.
I'm off out for a run now so don't have too much for me to reply to when I get home Jim, ok.
And yeh, without a doubt, every member of PPRUNE is a joke.
I'm off out for a run now so don't have too much for me to reply to when I get home Jim, ok.
And yeh, without a doubt, every member of PPRUNE is a joke.
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... The most pointless crap I've read so far in this topic. How people like yarselves are taken seriously is beyond me and this forum is a complete joke along with everyone on it, bloody sad.
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Irish aviation issues
Can we get this thread back on track; there are lots of extremely important issues to debate in relation to Irish aviation and unfortunately, vision is in short supply (at official level).
I've just been reading in the news that talks about the site for the new terminal is still being decided. So, if I may ask, WHAT was the government deliberating on for nearly six months. Sadly, it seems to have been trying to square the different POLITICAL motives, NOT actually much to do with aviation per se or our need for an intelligent, vision driven aviation policy. No chance of that with this lot. It would be comical if it weren't so serious; we read about the Indian civil service holding AI's fleet plans for months with silly bureaucracy, but we don't need that. We have all the obstructions we need at political level, and mostly it's by inaction and disinterest.
But let's move on; I think it was Mark who said that the new runway (not expected to open until 2012!) won't be long enough to handle the 744/380. What about the current one? 8,650'. Not even enough for a 777! And absolutely no interest or intention in increasing it. How much is that going to cost us over the next few years.
As for the US, it looks like the EU/US might be able to do a deal later this year, but what about Canada? A potentially very good market, but obstructed by a very outdated bilateral.
There is so much potential for Irish aviation to be a superb catalyst for economic growth, but it's obstructed by a complete lack of political interest. That's our No1 challenge.
As for EI and A380s, forget about it; my guess is 787-900s and 777s as an interim, but it's extremely difficult for EI to plan now, because it doesn't really know when it'll need the aircraft. Hopefully Mannion will beef up the service quality; whatever about transatlantic routes, they'll be cut to pieces if they go onto Asian routes with a second rate service product.
I've just been reading in the news that talks about the site for the new terminal is still being decided. So, if I may ask, WHAT was the government deliberating on for nearly six months. Sadly, it seems to have been trying to square the different POLITICAL motives, NOT actually much to do with aviation per se or our need for an intelligent, vision driven aviation policy. No chance of that with this lot. It would be comical if it weren't so serious; we read about the Indian civil service holding AI's fleet plans for months with silly bureaucracy, but we don't need that. We have all the obstructions we need at political level, and mostly it's by inaction and disinterest.
But let's move on; I think it was Mark who said that the new runway (not expected to open until 2012!) won't be long enough to handle the 744/380. What about the current one? 8,650'. Not even enough for a 777! And absolutely no interest or intention in increasing it. How much is that going to cost us over the next few years.
As for the US, it looks like the EU/US might be able to do a deal later this year, but what about Canada? A potentially very good market, but obstructed by a very outdated bilateral.
There is so much potential for Irish aviation to be a superb catalyst for economic growth, but it's obstructed by a complete lack of political interest. That's our No1 challenge.
As for EI and A380s, forget about it; my guess is 787-900s and 777s as an interim, but it's extremely difficult for EI to plan now, because it doesn't really know when it'll need the aircraft. Hopefully Mannion will beef up the service quality; whatever about transatlantic routes, they'll be cut to pieces if they go onto Asian routes with a second rate service product.
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akerosid - some interesting points.
Must be nearly 2 years ago now, O'Leary offered to pay for every brick needed and said he would build a new terminal once Aer Rianta were not involved.
Now possibly if it had've happened he would've charged you for taking a leak in the toilets in the new terminal but you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. The new building would probably be almost completed at this stage.
I'm not sure if that project would've had any intention to accomodate larger aircraft either though as I can't see FR going any bigger than Airbuses in the very distant future.
Must be nearly 2 years ago now, O'Leary offered to pay for every brick needed and said he would build a new terminal once Aer Rianta were not involved.
Now possibly if it had've happened he would've charged you for taking a leak in the toilets in the new terminal but you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. The new building would probably be almost completed at this stage.
I'm not sure if that project would've had any intention to accomodate larger aircraft either though as I can't see FR going any bigger than Airbuses in the very distant future.
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Mark & Jim, Might I suggest Jet Blast for your little bout, us "sad" people do at times like to stick to the topic.
Akerosid, pleasure as always to hear your comments, Think the current runway should be left alone for now, and development of a new longer parallel runway should commence. Did you catch the article in the Irish Times about Aer Lingus proposing to fund and build the new terminal, the one the goverment said it is going to build with the DAA
The Article mentioned that the goverment liked this proposal, while the DAA did not want to comment.
As for the 777's, I still think they might be able to manage a MTOW take off from Dublin, it's generally landing distance that is the problem, but I know you looked into this in another post, so correct me if I am wrong.
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Akerosid, pleasure as always to hear your comments, Think the current runway should be left alone for now, and development of a new longer parallel runway should commence. Did you catch the article in the Irish Times about Aer Lingus proposing to fund and build the new terminal, the one the goverment said it is going to build with the DAA
The Article mentioned that the goverment liked this proposal, while the DAA did not want to comment. As for the 777's, I still think they might be able to manage a MTOW take off from Dublin, it's generally landing distance that is the problem, but I know you looked into this in another post, so correct me if I am wrong.
S.C.