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Old 8th Jul 2005, 20:41
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AF1 Spiral

Just watching Air Force One coming into Andrews on CNN. It's doing a spiral approach. Is that SOP for AF1?

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When it flew into Heathrow 2 years ago it was sequenced (with a bit of a gap ahead and behind and on the other parallel runway) in on the ILS with the other traffic.

Didn't have to hold either
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was nr 2 to AF1 into TXL, when they switched off the ILS w/o warning! That was the fastest NDB-approach brief I've ever given!

anyway: Never seen a 74 spiral, though

must have been cool for Dubya
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anyway: Never seen a 74 spiral, though
It was quite the sight! I was thinking he'd better have finished his diet coke...

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He made a quick trip back home .... anyone have any photos of AF1 etc at Prestwick?

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Jordan, have you tried that other site that should never be mentioned here.
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<<When it flew into Heathrow 2 years ago it was sequenced (with a bit of a gap ahead and behind and on the other parallel runway) in on the ILS with the other traffic.>>

It's usually a bit more of a "gap" ahead and behind as US security takes over half the airfield and carrrries out it's own runway inspection before AF1 lands! A colleague of mine had the dubious privilege of sending AF1 round when the inspection team had not reported clear of the runway!
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http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=358724
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=358731
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=358032

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Jerricho - PM me which site you mean

kpiko3 - many thanks.

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Old 10th Jul 2005, 21:42
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Thanks for the link to pics. Their paint scheme is proably the ugliest on the planet.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

While we are on the subject of Air Force One at LHR...

Some lucky person managed to catch a well-known PPruner expertly directing Dubya into LHR when he last visited:

In all it's glory: MP3 or WAV format

Poor pilot sounds a bit out of his depth... probably used to having "the skies cleared" for him
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have to agree with MJ on this, sounded like a perfectly ok arrival r/t wise to me.
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Hey............that's me!!!!

Crossfire, where in the hell did you get that from????? Thank you.
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sorry

Not really, he asks a few questions that most pilots would probably ask at a busy international airport that they were not familiar with!
You're right.. Sorry.. I was in a mood.


Hey............that's me!!!!
I worked that out from another discussion we had at the time. I didn't want to name you directly, but since you have admitted it I guess it's cool... nice work!

The news said AF1 was 'on final approach' so I quickly hooked up the micro tape recorder hit record and hoped for the best, thats why it's not as good as the Concorde recording - didn't get as much time to play with the levels and the squelch.
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Mmmm, not sure if we can allow links to illegal recordings ... even if it does feature Jerricho.
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It's doing a spiral approach
Technically, that would be a helical approach, perhaps with a spiral modification.


Helix: a uniform path around the surface of a cylinder traced at an angle to the longditudinal axis of the cylinder

Spiral: a circular shape with an ever decreasing radius of curvature described in a two dimensional plane

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