Cardiff Questions
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Cardiff Questions
Organising a conference next year. Politics demand it be in Cardiff, practicality that some attendees come from Scotland. BMI baby fly to Glasgow (PIK), but tt says operated by Air Wales. Flight time is pushing 2hrs. Seems awful long, is there a stop somewhere, or does it just go all round the Wrekin.
Also what a/c are they using. ATR I can get away with, but senior execs will not be pleased at being on a bandit or similar for that long. Why PIK and not Abbotsinch?.
Thanks
Also what a/c are they using. ATR I can get away with, but senior execs will not be pleased at being on a bandit or similar for that long. Why PIK and not Abbotsinch?.
Thanks
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Check the aircraft reg. If it is (i think) G-SSEA, it has 3 of 4 rows of "business class" seats at the rear. Slightly wider than the standard seats. But when I worked at CWL they always used G-TAWE.
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Expect a flight time anywhere from 1:10 to 1:30 depending on the wind. As for Speedbird_Heavy's suggestion of sitting in the back seats, I would recommend the front row as, if no one is seated in front of you, you can stretch your legs. Down side is, higher noise level due to the engines. Oh well.
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did it in 1 hr 03 mins yesterday!.......(but then I am just amazing!) 
trouble is it took 1hr 45 mins to get to PIK!
that's strong northerlies and turboprops for you!
rabbs
trouble is it took 1hr 45 mins to get to PIK!
that's strong northerlies and turboprops for you!
rabbs
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cardiff to prestwick
Hope that bmi baby are not pulling the Cardiff/Prestwick route! I have a flight booked in Nov/Dec ! What period of notice would they have to give?
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Just put in some dates for travel Nov/Dec and site is accepting them,so looks like the rumour could be false.
Link is here---click on 'more news here' at bottom,look at 24/09,then Bmi Baby.
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Link is here---click on 'more news here' at bottom,look at 24/09,then Bmi Baby.
www.ch-aviation.ch
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Ye see what you mean ! maybe air wales will take over the route? They did try to launch a scottish service a year or so ago . Thanks for checking it out,i am actually from balloch (loch lomond) so it would be back to Bristol if the route did go! 
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Thanks to all for the replies, I can now say I've checked and it's a non stop route operated by modern kit. Summer 05 tt will be in place by date of event. Cross the bridge of the route being pulled if I come to it. CWL's website only shows it to end of next month, but as one poster says Baby's system is taking bookings beyond 31/10.
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PIK - CWL - PIK still operating thru winter and although sched shows 1hr 45m it's always early no matter which way you go and average flight times around 1hr 20m.
Excellent service - keep using it - you get half price rail fare from PIK station showing your booking confirmation.
Excellent service - keep using it - you get half price rail fare from PIK station showing your booking confirmation.
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Couldn't see any reference to subsidised rail travel on the website. Would this also apply to EDI flights?
Incidentally,why hasn't this thread been moved to Airlines,Airports and Routes?
Incidentally,why hasn't this thread been moved to Airlines,Airports and Routes?
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According to the Cardiff Airport website in addition to continuing through the winter Cardiff-Prestwck they will increase the frequency. Probably another return flight Saturday and Sunday the same as weekdays.
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NO. Only available on flights in and out of PIK. They started this several years ago, in a bid to raise the stakes and draw passengers to the airport by offering free / discounted rail travel.
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Free rail travel applies from/to anywhere in Scotland for the first 6 months of any new route. Thereafter 50% off.
30% of all passengers travel by train.
30% of all passengers travel by train.
The TAY flight is a TNT cargo flight from their Liege hub. But unlike most of their operations which are on their own 146 freighter fleet, the Cardiff flight is operated by an Atlantic Airways Lockheed Electra, one of the last big props left in regular service in Europe. The outbound comes over my house in Central London about 23.10 local each evening, and is nicely audible from the ground, even from inside the house (and the nav lights visible on clear evenings). Occasionally I hear the return in the early morning too. Guess I have an ear for the old dinosaurs !
We established here on PPRuNe a while ago that it was indeed the Cardiff Electra going overhead Central London each night and that it was normally at about 15,000 feet, despite which I can hear it, so I'm surprised about it being inaudible over South Bristol. What about when Cardiff is on easterlies, the departure presumably must be climbing out on the same trackabout 2230 ?