BAe ATP
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From: Wherever my current employers wish to send me !!
As a wee CSA at East Mids, back in the late 80's, the a/c was aptly nicknamed Alternative Transport Provided, due to the high probablity of us getting in a bus to get the pax down to LHR thanks to another tech disaster !
"...you'd be better off flying with BA
...cos the ATP's gone tech today !"
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Hell, we even wrote our own rap for the thing !
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"...you'd be better off flying with BA
...cos the ATP's gone tech today !"
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Hell, we even wrote our own rap for the thing !
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From: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
skiddy---
Could be because it's a beancounters dream ? dangle the low fuel burn carrot--eg 600kgs from GLA / EDI - MAN and Wow !!--- the little eyes light up ! The real expense comes later re. downtime / spares and delays---as I am sure you--and lots of others who have been in contact with the heaps are only too well aware.
Could be because it's a beancounters dream ? dangle the low fuel burn carrot--eg 600kgs from GLA / EDI - MAN and Wow !!--- the little eyes light up ! The real expense comes later re. downtime / spares and delays---as I am sure you--and lots of others who have been in contact with the heaps are only too well aware.
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From: UK
`Aerospace taking the piss` was another unfortunate name for it. My first type so i hold a little affection for it. Then again i remember having to fly the first morning sector still wearing my jacket and hat complete with `mickey mouse` headset over the top to stay warm. The alternative was to risk being asphixiated by the ground `snake` heater that just seemed to pump noxious gas into the cabin. Haven`t been able to do 220kts to 4 miles since though!!
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From: UK
Did 5000+ hrs in the thing....wasn't that bad really...honest !!
When I first flew it ( a long time ago ) we called the "Skoda"...even with ATC...But Fleet Office called it a day cos it was a bit of an insult to the famed car manufacturer !!
There were various "affectionate" nicknames for the old bird..but I still think the best was the "Tampon"....cos it only "went up once a month" !!
"Wigwam" was another......think.....A - Teepee !!
Still hold out that it's a great piece of kit to start out on...it's got every bad trait in the book...If you can fly the thing well...you can fly anything !!
And as a previous posting said...you could "red line" it to 4 miles...those 14 ft props are the best airbrakes around.
When I first flew it ( a long time ago ) we called the "Skoda"...even with ATC...But Fleet Office called it a day cos it was a bit of an insult to the famed car manufacturer !!
There were various "affectionate" nicknames for the old bird..but I still think the best was the "Tampon"....cos it only "went up once a month" !!
"Wigwam" was another......think.....A - Teepee !!
Still hold out that it's a great piece of kit to start out on...it's got every bad trait in the book...If you can fly the thing well...you can fly anything !!
And as a previous posting said...you could "red line" it to 4 miles...those 14 ft props are the best airbrakes around.
Death Cruiser Flight Crew
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From: Vaucluse, France.
I know someone who was in BA at the time and was involved in the committee formed to advise the board on the 748 replacement. Under consideration were the ATR42, Fokker50 and the ATP, and the committee were unanimous in recommending them, in that order.
"That's it then" said my friend "wheels within wheels, funny handshakes all round and I'll bet we end up with the b---dy ATP!"
"Oh ----, how could you be so cynical!" said the chairman.
Look what happened ...
"That's it then" said my friend "wheels within wheels, funny handshakes all round and I'll bet we end up with the b---dy ATP!"
"Oh ----, how could you be so cynical!" said the chairman.
Look what happened ...
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From: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Probably the only "modern" type for which the maker had to conduct a "hearts and minds" campaign for the operators due to the "positive feedback" 
-which consisted of a day out at Woodford--and a free lunch --plus some waffle of course.
It also holds, I think, the world record for an IFSD--on a delivery flight---Woodford to MAN--15mins ?---Loganair as I recall.
-which consisted of a day out at Woodford--and a free lunch --plus some waffle of course. It also holds, I think, the world record for an IFSD--on a delivery flight---Woodford to MAN--15mins ?---Loganair as I recall.
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From: UK
Krystal n chips....Your not wrong......
G:LOGA Block time 25 mins
As I remember it we had a "flap" fault as soon as we got the wheels up....went straight into the hangar after touchdown !!
Ah...BAe quality control at its best.
G:LOGA Block time 25 mins
As I remember it we had a "flap" fault as soon as we got the wheels up....went straight into the hangar after touchdown !!
Ah...BAe quality control at its best.
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From: IOM
My first cockpit visit was also in the Skod.....emmm......ATP (damn that memo), looked quite nice, bit cramped though, {not even going to mention the cabin 
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But hey, I enjoyed the many flights to and from liverpool on them (as a pax
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Always enjoyed seeing them at IoM...
Roll on the Dorniers though (for EMX) !!
}.But hey, I enjoyed the many flights to and from liverpool on them (as a pax
).Always enjoyed seeing them at IoM...
Roll on the Dorniers though (for EMX) !!
