A380 Passenger EVAC announcement
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Catchup,
Actually it can be part of the game. Read the FAR on EVAC. It is up to the administrator to decide if a collapsed gear test is warranted. The FAA at this time is assessing that fact.
Actually it can be part of the game. Read the FAR on EVAC. It is up to the administrator to decide if a collapsed gear test is warranted. The FAA at this time is assessing that fact.
Isn't the max passenger capacity 555?
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I Wouldn't get on an A380 unless my life depended on it. The crowd dynamics of 850 people alone scare the pants off me. This thing is just too big. I have half a view that despite the millions spent designing and building it, it either won't take off, or be such a pig in the air that it will be a liability in the pattern.
Position of ignorance, but we will see.
Position of ignorance, but we will see.
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853 super-fit athletes required.. Apply here??
I seriously doubt the simulation will involve stereotypical passengers. How many infants will be involved? How many old feeble folk? and how much cash are the 850 evacuees getting at the bottom of the slide??
I reckon Airbus are worried about this test.
I reckon Airbus are worried about this test.
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400 VOLUNTEERS REQUIRED FOR UPPER DECK EVACUATION TEST.
Please bring with you:
1 x Parachute
1 x Crashmat
1 x Health Insurance Policy
1 x Life Insurance Policy
1 x Ambulance
1 x Bottle of Brandy (for dutch courage and minor abrasions)
Please bring with you:
1 x Parachute
1 x Crashmat
1 x Health Insurance Policy
1 x Life Insurance Policy
1 x Ambulance
1 x Bottle of Brandy (for dutch courage and minor abrasions)
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It’s not only Airbus getting worried, but Boeing also, as they have the 787 to come in a few years time.
I think I can remember reading a long time ago, Boeing saying that it might have done the last full evacuation tests on a test aircraft.
This was because the serious injuries being counted on the volunteers and how much the law suites were costing.
I think I can remember reading a long time ago, Boeing saying that it might have done the last full evacuation tests on a test aircraft.
This was because the serious injuries being counted on the volunteers and how much the law suites were costing.
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Come on folks, those evac tests are set up as cakewalks.
Sure half the exits don't work. The other half do. Only half the exits have cameras over them. What do you think they train the "volunteers" to do?
There's no way you can "simulate" an evacuation of untrained passengers using live persons, without being sued for traumatizing someone. So you set up the "Best case" scenario, show that the system works, and hope the airframe designers haven't forsaken common sense in the hope of making a buck.
And I'll take bottom deck, exit row in the tailcone, please (be a good chap and don't break the nosegear).
Sure half the exits don't work. The other half do. Only half the exits have cameras over them. What do you think they train the "volunteers" to do?
There's no way you can "simulate" an evacuation of untrained passengers using live persons, without being sued for traumatizing someone. So you set up the "Best case" scenario, show that the system works, and hope the airframe designers haven't forsaken common sense in the hope of making a buck.
And I'll take bottom deck, exit row in the tailcone, please (be a good chap and don't break the nosegear).
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The real scoop is this: Airbus will be using US Airways fight attendants, noted for their abilities to get pax off planes as quicky as possible with their rude and "I don't give a damn attitude". The latest word is that it will take about .2 secs per passenger to evacuate the whole plane.
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Ontariotech,
Yes there are required percentage of passengers that represent certain demographics. The FAR for it is around here somewhere if you search for it.
They use dolls for the babys not real ones.
Yes there are required percentage of passengers that represent certain demographics. The FAR for it is around here somewhere if you search for it.
They use dolls for the babys not real ones.
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I used to think I was a cynical bar steward, but after reading some of your comments I realise I am quite sane in comparison.
Lest we forget the number incidents where people have perished despite the so called test results - they don't really mean that much.
Let's see what the test proves and if it is a farce, then what Airbus does about it.
Lest we forget the number incidents where people have perished despite the so called test results - they don't really mean that much.
Let's see what the test proves and if it is a farce, then what Airbus does about it.
Why is everyone focusing on just the A380, surely these tests are now more rigourous than they have been in the past, therefore we should be applying them retrospectively to all wide bodied a/c currently in service carrying passengers, in any part of the world. I seem to recall reading that none of the older wide bodies would meet the new regulations.
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Perhaps 747FOCAL could provide us with detailed information about 747 upper deck trials.
Or would that involve not slagging off Airbus* and so be beyond his limited capabilities?
*I speak as someone who will happily fly A or B and am not one of these sad little "if it ain't Boeing I ain't going" no-lifes.
P.P.S. How many passengers have died aboard B747s?
Or would that involve not slagging off Airbus* and so be beyond his limited capabilities?
*I speak as someone who will happily fly A or B and am not one of these sad little "if it ain't Boeing I ain't going" no-lifes.
P.P.S. How many passengers have died aboard B747s?
I understand that the FAA is reconsidering the regs as after the SQ006 accident, two slides in that 744 inflated in the cabin pinning cabin crew against the walls of the aircraft.
The slides on the 744 have not been tested, everything since the 747-100 was done "by anaysis" only.
Seem to remember that the 777-300 didnt have a full blown demo, just "analysis".
However...its a level playing field right
The slides on the 744 have not been tested, everything since the 747-100 was done "by anaysis" only.
Seem to remember that the 777-300 didnt have a full blown demo, just "analysis".
However...its a level playing field right
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On the Cranfield University evac rig, the only way to get the test subjects (mostly postgrad students) to evac as if their life depended on it was to give a 20pound bar tab to the first 10 to evacuate. That was back when 20quid would get you a heavy night on the tiles.
This resulted in the types of behaviour seen in real evacs (people climbing over seats and pushing past others).
This resulted in the types of behaviour seen in real evacs (people climbing over seats and pushing past others).