Pilots In Uniforms As Passengers
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Pilots In Uniforms As Passengers
I have heard a story wich took a place a couple of years.
The Captain had arrived at a airport and boarded a another flight as a paid passenger, still wearing his pilots uniform. The airline or Pilot of the flight refused him enterring the aircraft with his uniform. I dont know what happend next.
I am asking why is thise
if any body has an idea please say it
The Captain had arrived at a airport and boarded a another flight as a paid passenger, still wearing his pilots uniform. The airline or Pilot of the flight refused him enterring the aircraft with his uniform. I dont know what happend next.
I am asking why is thise
if any body has an idea please say it
Last edited by Stefan Stefanovic; 17th October 2003 at 03:13.
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From: Manchester
I was standing in a HUGE "Stand by" queue once, when I saw man turn up in "Civies". On seeing the queue, he turned around and went into the toilets only to return five miniutes later in the full "Captain speaking" uniform!!!. He then went to the check in desk and tried the old "Who's flying today" and "I'm aircrew so I can have the jump seat" lines. It didn't work though and I had to smile when my name was called out and his wasn't.
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From: Near LOACH intersection
If this fellow was "jumpseating" and not an employee of that particular carrier then it is entirely at the discretion of the flight's Captain as to who gets on and under what circumstances. Sounds unusual to me. Many times in this situ, I am accepted into the jumpseat, but offered a seat in the back if available whether in uniform or not.
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From: Near LOACH intersection
Quite unusual. The Captain refusing the boarding must have suspected this fellow of having dubious credentials. It would be very unusual for an aircrew member to be traveling in uniform after purchasing a ticket
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From: Seattle
It would be very unusual for an aircrew member to be traveling in uniform after purchasing a ticket
Often I finish a trip away from my base and have a company-paid ticket to base or home. If it's a short time between flights and a relatively short flight home, I'll keep the uniform on.
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
I regularly pax (ticketed) before or after duty on another airline(s). No time to get changed. I haven't had any hassles with it except for the passengers blaming me for the delays or the landing and fielding questions about where the toilets are.
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From: the Moon
many moons ago ,Standing outside MIA in my uniform ,waiting for a cab.
A Family asked me to bring there bags to the AA check in.
I almost did it ,knowing that i would earn more money with it than i did for a whole day flying with my airline .
Neil
A Family asked me to bring there bags to the AA check in.
I almost did it ,knowing that i would earn more money with it than i did for a whole day flying with my airline .
Neil
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From: New Jersey,U.S.A.
Many moons ago I was a brand new DHC-6 first officer at the Grand Canyon. Our uniform consisted of any kind of navy blue pants, the pilot shirt in blue, and without epalettes. Why, I don't know, but I guess us Twin Otter pilots didn't rate them.
After terrifying tourists at the Canyon for the day I left work. I had to stop at the gas station in Tusayan, the little tourist trap town that was the gateway to the south rim of the Canyon. I was putting gas in my car when a car with out of state plates pulled in. They told me to gas up their car. I politely informed them that I didn't work there.
This is one of many reasons when it comes time for contract negotiations that I believe I deserve more money.
MS
After terrifying tourists at the Canyon for the day I left work. I had to stop at the gas station in Tusayan, the little tourist trap town that was the gateway to the south rim of the Canyon. I was putting gas in my car when a car with out of state plates pulled in. They told me to gas up their car. I politely informed them that I didn't work there.
This is one of many reasons when it comes time for contract negotiations that I believe I deserve more money.
MS
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From: Anderlecht
Right on Jerri 
Reminded me of the time I spotted the a/c I was due to fly on parked on a remote stand with engineers pouring all over the engine. Reason given for the delay was? You guessed it, ATC !
Reminded me of the time I spotted the a/c I was due to fly on parked on a remote stand with engineers pouring all over the engine. Reason given for the delay was? You guessed it, ATC !
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From: EDDF
I saw it first hand. A Saudi captain (Canadian expat) who was in full uniform travelling on a full fare J Class ticket was refused entry to the AC lounge in YYZ. The captain argued and lost. I was travelling on an ID00 with LH but in civies was allowed to use it.
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From: Europe
AF rule is that you cannot fly in uniform (rule applies only to AF staff, not other airlines' staff). If you show up in uniform, you are refused boarding.For pilots (both male and female) and stewards it's easy, because they just have to remove stars, stripes and wings , while it's a little more difficult for female CC. Have to carry something to conceal the uniform when in a hurry and hide the handbag, or change 
, or take the next flight 
, while it's a little more difficult for female CC. Have to carry something to conceal the uniform when in a hurry and hide the handbag, or change , or take the next flight
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From: The spiritual home of DeHavilland
Not quite 'on-thread' but it relates to being seated in the passenger cabin in uniform - on a flight as 'flying spanner' sent to recover an aircraft stuck at an outstation.
The recovered aircraft was flying back with four of us on the flight deck in uniform. When the meal was served, rather than balance a tray on our knees in the jump seats, us two engineers went back into the cabin to eat. While we were eating, the F/O [who was a Captain] came back for a chat. A passenger sitting opposite came over and asked "If you people are all in here, who's flying the aeroplane?" We had to take him up front to prove that the captain was actually at the controls. Ah such happy innocent days. We can't do things like that anymore.
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Through difficulties to the cinema
[Edited to insert comma. We weren't eating the F/O. Only cabin crew are allowed to do that!]
The recovered aircraft was flying back with four of us on the flight deck in uniform. When the meal was served, rather than balance a tray on our knees in the jump seats, us two engineers went back into the cabin to eat. While we were eating, the F/O [who was a Captain] came back for a chat. A passenger sitting opposite came over and asked "If you people are all in here, who's flying the aeroplane?" We had to take him up front to prove that the captain was actually at the controls. Ah such happy innocent days. We can't do things like that anymore.
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Through difficulties to the cinema
[Edited to insert comma. We weren't eating the F/O. Only cabin crew are allowed to do that!]
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From: Always in the air
I’ m not sure if I have to interfere, many nice stories are told this way, but all the answers had nothing to do with the original question! Why the captain in uniform was refused to board as a pax.
Well, I believe, there is only one answer.
In some companies, where rules are stricter then in others, in case of emergency they don’t want to leave any doubt that the captain is seating in the cockpit and not, maybe, drinking in business, or even in coach.
In a smokey situation is very difficult to distinguish the real captain in uniform, if you can see two of them, or only the pax one.
Well, I believe, there is only one answer.
In some companies, where rules are stricter then in others, in case of emergency they don’t want to leave any doubt that the captain is seating in the cockpit and not, maybe, drinking in business, or even in coach.
In a smokey situation is very difficult to distinguish the real captain in uniform, if you can see two of them, or only the pax one.