Passengers to sue airline over Captain's PAs
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mgc,
you refer to people's inability to draw "any meaningful scientific conclusion" .....
It has nothing to do with science!! "Accidents" -- or perhaps I should use the word "incidents" -- can be examined scientifically. But what spork and I are talking about (if I may be so bold, spork, as to include you) is the combination of reasoning, life experience and common sense.
you refer to people's inability to draw "any meaningful scientific conclusion" .....
It has nothing to do with science!! "Accidents" -- or perhaps I should use the word "incidents" -- can be examined scientifically. But what spork and I are talking about (if I may be so bold, spork, as to include you) is the combination of reasoning, life experience and common sense.
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Humor vs. Comedy
There's a BIG difference between humor and comedy.
When making PA's from the cockpit, humor is OK, but comedy is inappropriate.
Sounds like this Brazilian Captain was trying to be a flying comedian and it backfired on him.
Over the years I've heard more complaints from my non-airline friends about their recent flights where "the pilot" got on the PA and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked.
Fellow pilots: Please shut the *%# up and just fly the airplane. Get your PA's down to about a minute. Leave the comedy, political/social commentary, and geography lessons to others. Your passengers will LOVE you for it!!
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When making PA's from the cockpit, humor is OK, but comedy is inappropriate.
Sounds like this Brazilian Captain was trying to be a flying comedian and it backfired on him.
Over the years I've heard more complaints from my non-airline friends about their recent flights where "the pilot" got on the PA and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked.
Fellow pilots: Please shut the *%# up and just fly the airplane. Get your PA's down to about a minute. Leave the comedy, political/social commentary, and geography lessons to others. Your passengers will LOVE you for it!!
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Can't use much of a sense of humour nowdays, can we? Flying is getting a bit too serious in the eye of the public! Can't blame them though.....
on PA;
Capt: Ladies and gentlement, for those of you who're seated on the righthand side of the aircraft, you should be able to see a magnificent view of Mt Kilimanjaro and to those seated on the left will be able to see the people on the right looking at Kilimanjaro......
Pax: "stewardess, may I have a complaint form please...."
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Capt: Ladies and gentlement, for those of you who're seated on the righthand side of the aircraft, you should be able to see a magnificent view of Mt Kilimanjaro and to those seated on the left will be able to see the people on the right looking at Kilimanjaro......
Pax: "stewardess, may I have a complaint form please...."
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About 29 years ago, when I was on an AA (I think) flight from New York to Los Angeles, the Captain announced that on one side of the plane there was a great view of the Grand Canyon, the best we'd ever see. Then he said that so we didn't all have to get up and go over to that side, he'd circle round it so those of us on the other side would be able to see it, too! And he did -- made a nice little loop and came back by it on the other side!
I have to say, I like hearing from the Captain, and I love the geography lessons!
I have to say, I like hearing from the Captain, and I love the geography lessons!
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Ha this is nothing! There was a Captain at Ansett who used to love to put on his hat and coat and address the captive audience with the FA handset at the front. One day going SYD to Norfolk Is. He put on his hat and coat and made a PA that went..." Good afternoon ladies and gents, Capt "Micheals" here. we are currently just passed our point of no return for Sydney and the latest weather for Norfolk is, well, attrocious. As we dont have enough fuel to get back to Sydney, we have to continue, but we might miss out on Norfolk and have to divert to Tontuta. The weather there isn't great either. But look folks, I was in the air force for over 30 years and if anyone can get you in, I can". With that, he returned to the cockpit. Passengers started to cry. The Captain was invited to Melboune for 'tea and biscuits' with the Director Flight Ops over this one.
I’m pretty sure I’ve flown with this captain. He’s pretty unmistakeable from the few times I’ve seen him on Rio-Săo Paulo flights – where he’s had the cabin in stitches.
“Seen him”? Yes, he’s come aft to address everyone! Great PR. I’d feel comfortable with him any time and would be ready to come to his defense as a character witness in any lawsuit. Yes, he might be a bit OTT for the more sphincterisc pax; like Gol itself he’s taken a page out of the Southwest book and is pretty heavy on the humour. I can well imagine how the “good news and bad news” would sit with some passengers. For my own part, having flown into Vitoria in bad weather, and being aware of the geography, I’d feel considerably reassured knowing via PA that the guys up front were even more aware. So I hope to hell he’s not been reprimanded.
There have been some comments earlier on about the average intelligence of passengers and, perhaps more specifically, about that of LCC pax in Brazil. You might be surprised. Gol have been fairly succesful in attracting corporate accounts, not an easy task when they don’t offer mileage.
Gol are up against a moribund traditional carrier, Varig (Boeing aircraft), and an innovative one with a good track record, TAM (Airbus throughout), who are trying to merge and having the devil’s own time doing so. And making hay.
Lastly, Brazil’s legal system is second only to that of the US as regards ease of litigation. Somehow, about thirty years ago, an education in law became “the way forward” in Brazil; statistically there is probably a 90% chance of there being a lawyer on any flight. Gol are now a fairly large target. Go figure.
“Seen him”? Yes, he’s come aft to address everyone! Great PR. I’d feel comfortable with him any time and would be ready to come to his defense as a character witness in any lawsuit. Yes, he might be a bit OTT for the more sphincterisc pax; like Gol itself he’s taken a page out of the Southwest book and is pretty heavy on the humour. I can well imagine how the “good news and bad news” would sit with some passengers. For my own part, having flown into Vitoria in bad weather, and being aware of the geography, I’d feel considerably reassured knowing via PA that the guys up front were even more aware. So I hope to hell he’s not been reprimanded.
There have been some comments earlier on about the average intelligence of passengers and, perhaps more specifically, about that of LCC pax in Brazil. You might be surprised. Gol have been fairly succesful in attracting corporate accounts, not an easy task when they don’t offer mileage.
Gol are up against a moribund traditional carrier, Varig (Boeing aircraft), and an innovative one with a good track record, TAM (Airbus throughout), who are trying to merge and having the devil’s own time doing so. And making hay.
Lastly, Brazil’s legal system is second only to that of the US as regards ease of litigation. Somehow, about thirty years ago, an education in law became “the way forward” in Brazil; statistically there is probably a 90% chance of there being a lawyer on any flight. Gol are now a fairly large target. Go figure.
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