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I have a little question. If pilots, who are doing the simulator test to enter Vueling, fail it, approximately how much do they have to pay for it? Just out of curiosity.
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Vueling interview!!
Hello guys...I'm italian pilot, today Vueling called me to make an interview, I have A320 type rating,,, I want to know about interview (quiz-simulator etc) and if Line training is free or the traineer will pay?? thank
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translated with babelfish:
The news and holders the president of Vueling and three advisors resign of their positions [ Ampliar now photo ] until president of Vueling, Josep Miquel Abbot, has submitted their retirement application.
The ex- advisor delegated of low cost Go assumes the Barcelona presidency, 25 Sep 2007 Extracrew (Agencies, Aena, Vueling, the Vanguard, Expansion) The president of low cost Catalan Vueling, Josep Miquel Abbot, submitted yesterday his retirement application to the position by differences with the management, according to detailed in a sent official notice to the National Commission of the Market of Values.
Also advisors Ferran Conti and Josep Creuheras, both Planet representatives, and the secretary of the administration advice resigned, Enrique Morera.
Conti and Creuheras, like Abbot, comprised of Investments Hemisphere, society of the Lara family, that is to say, of the group Planet, proprietor of 15% of Vueling; Morera, lawyer, were named in its day to proposal of the majority shareholders then, that is to say, Apax Partners and Investments Hemisphere.
The presidency has been assumed by Barbara Cassani, ex- delegated advisor of the company of low Go cost, created by British Airways and sold later to the directive equipment. Cassani has explained that Vueling is a "very solid company" and with very good perspective.
It added that the airline is immersed in a "focused strategic reorientation" to the yield. After the exit of all the advisors related to the Lara family, the advice is controlled by both partners now founders, Carlos Muñoz and Lazaro Ros, and the independent ones, with Cassani at the top.
The resignation of Abbot and the advisors related to Lara has been interpreted by analysts as a discrepancy of Investments Hemispheres to not to be accepted its proposals for the adjustment of the company, necessary after months of deterioration in the results.
The direction of the company announced weeks ago that it had decided to delay the plan of international growth to concentrate in his markets and more profitable routes and not to so far buy the 20 airplanes that thought to acquire. Also a plan of adjustment in the direction kept awake, that was reduced to half, of 35 to 18 members, with dismissals, preretirements and degradation of some directors.
According to the Vanguard informs the newspaper, the company last night reduced importance to the resignations of the advice affirming that they must to differences that nothing they have to do with operative the daily one of the airline. Sources of Aena have confirmed to Extracrew.com that the company operates with absolute normality in Barcelona.
Vueling carried out in stock market a reduction of the quotation of 30%, to first of August, after multiplying by five its loss of the first semester,
up to 33.7 million euros, and announcing that it will not fulfill his forecasts for 2007, as a result of the hardening of the competition, with Clickair like main rival. The problems of Vueling are rather in their results, that have ballast their evolution in stock market.
The bottom of Apax capital Partners, that the birth of the company supported, left the company in June, six months after taking it to the market of values, and the title collapsed a 30%.
But the action, after a very successful opening - it happened of 30 euros to 45 in few weeks went already to the loss from April. The titles of Vueling accumulate, altogether, a loss of 63% from beginning of year. It closed yesterday to 12.07 euros, with which the airline has a stock-exchange value of about 180 million euros. To return
The news and holders the president of Vueling and three advisors resign of their positions [ Ampliar now photo ] until president of Vueling, Josep Miquel Abbot, has submitted their retirement application.
The ex- advisor delegated of low cost Go assumes the Barcelona presidency, 25 Sep 2007 Extracrew (Agencies, Aena, Vueling, the Vanguard, Expansion) The president of low cost Catalan Vueling, Josep Miquel Abbot, submitted yesterday his retirement application to the position by differences with the management, according to detailed in a sent official notice to the National Commission of the Market of Values.
Also advisors Ferran Conti and Josep Creuheras, both Planet representatives, and the secretary of the administration advice resigned, Enrique Morera.
Conti and Creuheras, like Abbot, comprised of Investments Hemisphere, society of the Lara family, that is to say, of the group Planet, proprietor of 15% of Vueling; Morera, lawyer, were named in its day to proposal of the majority shareholders then, that is to say, Apax Partners and Investments Hemisphere.
The presidency has been assumed by Barbara Cassani, ex- delegated advisor of the company of low Go cost, created by British Airways and sold later to the directive equipment. Cassani has explained that Vueling is a "very solid company" and with very good perspective.
It added that the airline is immersed in a "focused strategic reorientation" to the yield. After the exit of all the advisors related to the Lara family, the advice is controlled by both partners now founders, Carlos Muñoz and Lazaro Ros, and the independent ones, with Cassani at the top.
The resignation of Abbot and the advisors related to Lara has been interpreted by analysts as a discrepancy of Investments Hemispheres to not to be accepted its proposals for the adjustment of the company, necessary after months of deterioration in the results.
The direction of the company announced weeks ago that it had decided to delay the plan of international growth to concentrate in his markets and more profitable routes and not to so far buy the 20 airplanes that thought to acquire. Also a plan of adjustment in the direction kept awake, that was reduced to half, of 35 to 18 members, with dismissals, preretirements and degradation of some directors.
According to the Vanguard informs the newspaper, the company last night reduced importance to the resignations of the advice affirming that they must to differences that nothing they have to do with operative the daily one of the airline. Sources of Aena have confirmed to Extracrew.com that the company operates with absolute normality in Barcelona.
Vueling carried out in stock market a reduction of the quotation of 30%, to first of August, after multiplying by five its loss of the first semester,
up to 33.7 million euros, and announcing that it will not fulfill his forecasts for 2007, as a result of the hardening of the competition, with Clickair like main rival. The problems of Vueling are rather in their results, that have ballast their evolution in stock market.
The bottom of Apax capital Partners, that the birth of the company supported, left the company in June, six months after taking it to the market of values, and the title collapsed a 30%.
But the action, after a very successful opening - it happened of 30 euros to 45 in few weeks went already to the loss from April. The titles of Vueling accumulate, altogether, a loss of 63% from beginning of year. It closed yesterday to 12.07 euros, with which the airline has a stock-exchange value of about 180 million euros. To return
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justice
maybe at last a symbolic reparation to the employess in case of cessation of operations, although nothing against a job lost. promises not honored as usual at vueling
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vueling is now under 10 euro/auction...
2nd Oct 2007.
8.27euro
3rd Oct 2007
time to sell all you have before final collapse.
(if people are stupid enough to buy Vueling auctions!)
time for pilots to look for a new job, cuz Vueling may stop to pay you.(Ask to be paid 2 months in advance to be sure!)
Vueling stock suspended
Tuesday October 2, 2007 Spain's stock market regulator CNMV yesterday suspended trading in Vueling Airlines following reports that the Barcelona-based LCC might issue another profit warning in the coming days. The airline said in early August that it would not meet its 2007 targets after cutting its average second-quarter fare by 23% in response to aggressive pricing by competitors. Vueling reported a net loss of €33.7 million ($48.1 million) for the six months ended June 30, a sharp increase from the €6.5 million loss it posted in the year-ago period (ATWOnline, Aug. 6). Last week, three board members (including Chairman Jose Miguel Abad) representing Grupo Planeta resigned following a "disagreement about the management" of the company (ATWOnline, Sept. 27). The departure of the GP representatives raised speculation that GP, which holds 15.87% of Vueling through Inversiones Hemisferio, might sell its shareholding to join Torreal and Air France KLM in a bid for Iberia.
Trading on Vueling's stock is suspended
Vueling Airlines' (Barcelona) stock was suspended today (October 1) on the Spanish stock exchange after authorities shut all trading due to rampant rumors surrounding the company. Three board members, including Chairman Jose Miguel Abad, representing Grupo Planeta, resigned and left the company last Thursday due to a rift with the current new management of the company over the continuing losses. Grupo Planeta holds its 15.87% share through Inversiones Hemisferio. It is rumored it may sell its holdings in order to join up with Torreal and Air France-KLM in its possible bid for Iberia. The company reported a net loss of $48 million in the first six months of this year ending on June 30 (this new loss is around five times larger than the previous loss in the same period a year ago). The arrival of William Allen, representing a group of American investors has not helped very much. Barbara Cassani, formerly of Go Fly, was just appointed to take control of the ailing airline. JetBlue (through Apax Partners) sold its 20% stake in the airline in June. The company is expected to issue another profit (loss) warning for the remaining part of the year that could see even larger losses due to the prevailing low fares and higher fuel costs. One rumor has Clickair making an offer for its planes, slots and pilots. Otherwise Vueling could be gone soon.
2nd Oct 2007.
8.27euro
3rd Oct 2007
time to sell all you have before final collapse.
(if people are stupid enough to buy Vueling auctions!)
time for pilots to look for a new job, cuz Vueling may stop to pay you.(Ask to be paid 2 months in advance to be sure!)
Vueling stock suspended
Tuesday October 2, 2007 Spain's stock market regulator CNMV yesterday suspended trading in Vueling Airlines following reports that the Barcelona-based LCC might issue another profit warning in the coming days. The airline said in early August that it would not meet its 2007 targets after cutting its average second-quarter fare by 23% in response to aggressive pricing by competitors. Vueling reported a net loss of €33.7 million ($48.1 million) for the six months ended June 30, a sharp increase from the €6.5 million loss it posted in the year-ago period (ATWOnline, Aug. 6). Last week, three board members (including Chairman Jose Miguel Abad) representing Grupo Planeta resigned following a "disagreement about the management" of the company (ATWOnline, Sept. 27). The departure of the GP representatives raised speculation that GP, which holds 15.87% of Vueling through Inversiones Hemisferio, might sell its shareholding to join Torreal and Air France KLM in a bid for Iberia.
Trading on Vueling's stock is suspended
Vueling Airlines' (Barcelona) stock was suspended today (October 1) on the Spanish stock exchange after authorities shut all trading due to rampant rumors surrounding the company. Three board members, including Chairman Jose Miguel Abad, representing Grupo Planeta, resigned and left the company last Thursday due to a rift with the current new management of the company over the continuing losses. Grupo Planeta holds its 15.87% share through Inversiones Hemisferio. It is rumored it may sell its holdings in order to join up with Torreal and Air France-KLM in its possible bid for Iberia. The company reported a net loss of $48 million in the first six months of this year ending on June 30 (this new loss is around five times larger than the previous loss in the same period a year ago). The arrival of William Allen, representing a group of American investors has not helped very much. Barbara Cassani, formerly of Go Fly, was just appointed to take control of the ailing airline. JetBlue (through Apax Partners) sold its 20% stake in the airline in June. The company is expected to issue another profit (loss) warning for the remaining part of the year that could see even larger losses due to the prevailing low fares and higher fuel costs. One rumor has Clickair making an offer for its planes, slots and pilots. Otherwise Vueling could be gone soon.
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Dartagnan,
It seems you are enjoying the show of Vueling. The worst it goes the happier you are?!
I bet that most of the people working there, or hoping to join soon, are not having a good time!
It seems you are enjoying the show of Vueling. The worst it goes the happier you are?!
I bet that most of the people working there, or hoping to join soon, are not having a good time!
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dartagnan
I think it`s about time that Mr.Dartagnan stops his posts about Vueling. And time to tell that he is frustated about the fact he wasn`t good enough for Vueling and NEVER worked there and probably still hasn`t got a job as a pilot. (and that with a airbus rating, gives us something to think about 
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Hey guys, take it easy. I think that the post from this guy about Vueling have been very helpful for guys like me, who thought about applying for Vueling just trying to go back to Europe. In fact, Vueling was announcing a road show in the middle east to recruit pilots in this region. Gotta admit that I was tempted but now, reading those posts can tell you that not in a million years I would go to that company. And take it easy because this is not about enjoying the situation with Vueling since many colleages (families) will be out of jobs pretty soon but just to prevent many other to resign from their current jobs and surely make a big mistake. Cheers!
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exactly, I was not good enough as I had 0 hour on the 320 and freshly type rated and some stupid examiners love to give us a tough time .
Even with thousand hours on the A320, some captains have been asked to leave the company.Then they cry like babies cuz there is a captain shortage and many don't want work for them.
when looking at the stock auction I am not surprised of what is happening in this company. It is a shame, cuz they had everything to make a good company.Instead they have decided to go against their pilots and create a nasty climate.Everything at vueling is rotten. Been there, and have had my worse time in my life! it s not a good airline to move on, specially if you have already a job somewhere else.
anyway, still sad for the one who will join them, cuz I think too they are out of business very soon.
Even with thousand hours on the A320, some captains have been asked to leave the company.Then they cry like babies cuz there is a captain shortage and many don't want work for them.
when looking at the stock auction I am not surprised of what is happening in this company. It is a shame, cuz they had everything to make a good company.Instead they have decided to go against their pilots and create a nasty climate.Everything at vueling is rotten. Been there, and have had my worse time in my life! it s not a good airline to move on, specially if you have already a job somewhere else.
anyway, still sad for the one who will join them, cuz I think too they are out of business very soon.
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You say you have been there in your post. You have not. You failed to make the grade. All you are is a low hours, inexperienced FO who failed the grade.
Just move on now, you have no info to add to what everyone already knows.
As for survival, who knows? But this is for sure, Barbara Cassani would not tarnish her name unless she thought there was a good chance of survival. Look at Go-fly.... she made her name there and was a people person. This may be the turning point that Vueling needs.
Let's wait and see.
You say you have been there in your post. You have not. You failed to make the grade. All you are is a low hours, inexperienced FO who failed the grade.
Just move on now, you have no info to add to what everyone already knows.
As for survival, who knows? But this is for sure, Barbara Cassani would not tarnish her name unless she thought there was a good chance of survival. Look at Go-fly.... she made her name there and was a people person. This may be the turning point that Vueling needs.
Let's wait and see.
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A321,
Go-fly were the low cost arm of British Airways.
They were sold to easyJet for a substantial sum 3 or 4 years ago. Their pilots made up to 100000 euro in share money EACH from the sale.
As I say, Cassani looks after people. But I guess you have never heard of Go.....
She is a very capable operator and highly regarded in business.
Let's see what happens shall we?
Go-fly were the low cost arm of British Airways.
They were sold to easyJet for a substantial sum 3 or 4 years ago. Their pilots made up to 100000 euro in share money EACH from the sale.
As I say, Cassani looks after people. But I guess you have never heard of Go.....
She is a very capable operator and highly regarded in business.
Let's see what happens shall we?
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Clickair/Vueling
A lower and lower share price means Vueling becomes more of a takeover target.
Quite probable that Clickair and Vueling will merge or Clickair will takeover Vueling.
Also the future of CLickair will not be decided until Iberia is sold.
A lot will depend on who buys Iberia.
If I was a potential buyer I would wait to buy at the future lower price.
Vueling will be bought out the lower share price just means less money for the shareholders.
This may not affect us as pilots or yes we could be but Vueling does not look like it will go bankrupt yet.
Giving a profits warning is a sign that they matured a little.
Vueling is not about to close its doors with around 50 million Euros in the bank, raised from the stock market.
It can weather the storms until next year. Got to admit the environment is tough.
The brand is known in Spain, the brand does have value.
Vueling has two good M's-- Marketing and Maintenance
Quite probable that Clickair and Vueling will merge or Clickair will takeover Vueling.
Also the future of CLickair will not be decided until Iberia is sold.
A lot will depend on who buys Iberia.
If I was a potential buyer I would wait to buy at the future lower price.
Vueling will be bought out the lower share price just means less money for the shareholders.
This may not affect us as pilots or yes we could be but Vueling does not look like it will go bankrupt yet.
Giving a profits warning is a sign that they matured a little.
Vueling is not about to close its doors with around 50 million Euros in the bank, raised from the stock market.
It can weather the storms until next year. Got to admit the environment is tough.
The brand is known in Spain, the brand does have value.
Vueling has two good M's-- Marketing and Maintenance
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Fly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vueling
Go was Go, and Vueling is not Go but will eventually go
If they want to make money, then they should at least fly to STN (easy to get some slots), MAN and DUB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vueling
Go was Go, and Vueling is not Go but will eventually go
If they want to make money, then they should at least fly to STN (easy to get some slots), MAN and DUB.
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Take It Easy Stanstead
Stanstead, come on take it easy on Dartagnan, whatever his condition. Afterall, his frustration is understandable, and whatsmore it´s true what he says about Vueling. Notwithstanding, I hope things change for my many colleagues employed there: I´ve been through 3 company collapses myself, dont wish it on anybody.......
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Dartagnan,
You are once again posting things which are not correct.
I quote you: “Even with thousand hours on the A320, some captains have been asked to leave the company. Then they cry like babies cuz there is a captain shortage and many don't want work for them.”
Simply not true. Everyone who has left Vueling has left by his own foot. Well, except for you, because you couldn’t cut it. You are the one who has been crying like a baby, not Vueling.
I have been through those same examiners that failed you, and I can assure you that if it were up to them, they would pass everyone they check. They have an obligation to do a job, and it’s not their fault that you can’t fly the airplane. Like I mentioned before, just because you pay for a type rating doesn’t give you the right to fly the airplane. Its hard work and it does take some talent, obviously you are missing one of those two factors.
Stop preaching about Vueling, all you know about the company is that they gave you a chance to fly a brand new A320 and you couldn’t cut it. I have many friends at Vueling who love their job. The company is learning and treats pilots better every day, a new contract with better conditions was signed not long ago.
I quote you: “Everything at Vueling is Rotten.”
Just that quote shows the anger you have towards the company, a company which you don’t even know. You need to grow up.
I see you are happy that Vueling isn’t doing well. You better hope Vueling stays in business because if they ever close, there are going to be a lot of Type Rated pilots with plenty of flight time without a job, and that’s going to kill any chance you have to get a job in the near future.
I see you posting all over the forum trying to desperately find another job, even in India. Do you really think a company is going to take you after you tell them you couldn’t pass a check? I don’t think so. How does it feel to throw 32,000 Euros in the garbage? You might as well get another type rating and start collecting them.
Grow up and move on.
You are once again posting things which are not correct.
I quote you: “Even with thousand hours on the A320, some captains have been asked to leave the company. Then they cry like babies cuz there is a captain shortage and many don't want work for them.”
Simply not true. Everyone who has left Vueling has left by his own foot. Well, except for you, because you couldn’t cut it. You are the one who has been crying like a baby, not Vueling.
I have been through those same examiners that failed you, and I can assure you that if it were up to them, they would pass everyone they check. They have an obligation to do a job, and it’s not their fault that you can’t fly the airplane. Like I mentioned before, just because you pay for a type rating doesn’t give you the right to fly the airplane. Its hard work and it does take some talent, obviously you are missing one of those two factors.
Stop preaching about Vueling, all you know about the company is that they gave you a chance to fly a brand new A320 and you couldn’t cut it. I have many friends at Vueling who love their job. The company is learning and treats pilots better every day, a new contract with better conditions was signed not long ago.
I quote you: “Everything at Vueling is Rotten.”
Just that quote shows the anger you have towards the company, a company which you don’t even know. You need to grow up.
I see you are happy that Vueling isn’t doing well. You better hope Vueling stays in business because if they ever close, there are going to be a lot of Type Rated pilots with plenty of flight time without a job, and that’s going to kill any chance you have to get a job in the near future.
I see you posting all over the forum trying to desperately find another job, even in India. Do you really think a company is going to take you after you tell them you couldn’t pass a check? I don’t think so. How does it feel to throw 32,000 Euros in the garbage? You might as well get another type rating and start collecting them.
Grow up and move on.
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Planeta buys 1.6 million Vueling shares ( up 7.0 % )
For those of you wondering about Vueling going bankrupt.
Don't worry about it.
Vueling shares are up to 14 Euros.Heh!
Abad from Planeta, see quote below has just bought 1.6 million shares of Vueling stock increasing his part to 27% of Vueling. He just stepped down to give way to Cassani.
I bet you he knows stuff we don't. Good for him he is a guy with balls and it is interesting he is buying now. This guy is respected in Spain and Catalonia, the impact of this is huge. This is how he answered speculations that he would sell..
"Grupo Planeta, a través de Inversiones Hemisferio, ha elevado su participación en Vueling hasta el 26,839% desde el 15,87% que poseía, al comprar 1,6 millones de acciones"
"Con esta nueva adquisición, el grupo Planeta cuenta con un total de 4,03 millones de acciones de Vueling. Esta partida tiene un valor en el mercado, según el precio actual de cotización de la aerolínea, de 57,3 millones de euros.
El grupo Planeta refuerza así su posición en la aerolínea, a pesar de los rumores que auguraban su posible salida. El pasado mes de mayo concluyó el plazo de 'lock-up' --compromiso de no vender-- de 180 días establecido con la salida a Bolsa para los inversores Apax Partners, Inversiones Hemisferio y V.A. American Investors, que sumaban un 40,55% del capital de la compañía aérea."
Don't worry about it.
Vueling shares are up to 14 Euros.Heh!
Abad from Planeta, see quote below has just bought 1.6 million shares of Vueling stock increasing his part to 27% of Vueling. He just stepped down to give way to Cassani.
I bet you he knows stuff we don't. Good for him he is a guy with balls and it is interesting he is buying now. This guy is respected in Spain and Catalonia, the impact of this is huge. This is how he answered speculations that he would sell..
"Grupo Planeta, a través de Inversiones Hemisferio, ha elevado su participación en Vueling hasta el 26,839% desde el 15,87% que poseía, al comprar 1,6 millones de acciones"
"Con esta nueva adquisición, el grupo Planeta cuenta con un total de 4,03 millones de acciones de Vueling. Esta partida tiene un valor en el mercado, según el precio actual de cotización de la aerolínea, de 57,3 millones de euros.
El grupo Planeta refuerza así su posición en la aerolínea, a pesar de los rumores que auguraban su posible salida. El pasado mes de mayo concluyó el plazo de 'lock-up' --compromiso de no vender-- de 180 días establecido con la salida a Bolsa para los inversores Apax Partners, Inversiones Hemisferio y V.A. American Investors, que sumaban un 40,55% del capital de la compañía aérea."