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Old 8th Oct 2012, 13:43
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Wasn't it Al Gore who strongly backed a carbon tax?

But 2000, voters were bushy.
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Follow the money, and pay attention to whom is carrying it.....(away). Monetizing Carbon makes no sense, if people wanted to seriously address air quality issues, there is money enough to do so, and technology aplenty. Your jaded view of social responsibility puts you in league with actors who have a terrible reputation for doing what is right, and in the public interest.

Making up a grand scheme to put dough into several "general" funds is lunacy.
Have we learned nothing about government?

Where do you gain your confidence that this windfall will go anywhere appropriate, and accomplish anything worthwhile? It is an oppressive, odious money grab by politicians and their shadowy accomplices in politics.

Have some discretion, this is geting embarrassing.
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Who is Hetfield ?

seems he's not happy with the industry which he is/was (dreamed of being) in UK ADP is a non valid extra tax. EU ETS is a joke. Glad I'm retired and out of what was the most superb industry/club in the world, still miss it
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Well, I'm not the piper

"He who pays the piper calls the tune".
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Wasn't it Al Gore who strongly backed a carbon tax?

But 2000, voters were bushy.
And your point is ?

Al Gore bails from green-energy investment
If you are thinking about green energy for your portfolio, Al Gore has a few words of advice: “Don’t do it.”

“Of course he does not say that in public,” says Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. “Gore’s company still talks about how alternative energy is a good investment. How companies are adopting it, governments are subsidizing it and people are using it.”

But SEC filings from Gore’s company, Generation Investment, tell a different story
Al Gore Walks Away From Green Energy - TheStreet
When Al Gore talks, people listen. Just ask the folks who hand out Academy Awards and Nobel Peace Prizes.

Al Gore also talks to investors. Since 2007, the former Vice President in Bill Clinton's administration has been preaching the benefits of putting your money where his mouth is: Alternative energy.
But if Al Gore has any message for investors today, it might very well be this: "Stay the hell away from alternative energy!"

Not that he would say so. At least out loud.
and from 2009, a previous era...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...gore.html?_r=0

Gore’s Dual Role: Advocate and Investor
Mr. Gore and his partners decided to back the company, and in gratitude Silver Spring retained him and John Doerr, another Kleiner Perkins partner, as unpaid corporate advisers.
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years.
Al Gore's Green-Tinged Conflicts Of Interest - Business Insider

Al Gore's Green-Tinged Conflicts Of Interest
Al Gore is pretty much the embodiment of what we will all soon be calling the Green-Industrial Complex. The American Conservative magazine describes how Gore profits from his advocacy of green causes.


For a snapshot of the federal and business interests intertwined in the rise of green capitalism, consider the best-known environmentalist, Al Gore, director of the film that has informed so many people’s views on the future of our planet, “An Inconvenient Truth.” To many, especially those still convinced that he was robbed of the 2000 presidential election, Gore is simply a super-committed individual determined to make the planet a better place. But there is far more to him. Gore is getting rich from environmentalism, not just by being paid a whopping $175,000 per speech but by using political pressure to force government policy in a direction that benefits his business interests.



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Old 8th Oct 2012, 14:48
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Originally Posted by stuckgear
or would it better if everyone posted METARs ?
Heathrow:

TEMPO 0916/0918 7000 RA BKN014

I protest.
Damn you Mike 777LR - beat me to it....

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Wasn't it Al Gore who strongly backed a carbon tax?

But 2000, voters were bushy.
Yes, he has a major investment in the company that handles most of the carbon credit transactions in the world. It made him a multi-millionare
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Yeah, and Romney?


With this kind of argument you probably can kill any effort to protect our planet.
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Oh, and thx PPRuNE for shifting....

Sure it is NON AIRLINE TRANSPORT STUFF

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Well Smisek is running UA so incompetently they won't be around much longer anyway.


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Old 8th Oct 2012, 20:38
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If anything, this thread is headed towards the dungeons.

Stuckgear

It would be more correct to say it was Mr. Smisek who alluded to adding more flights betwixt the US and UK, had it not been for the APD. I, on the other hand, am not so sure. For several reasons.

PS
UA is adding a 2nd or 3rd daily IAH-LHR rotation. I can't be all bad, even with the APD.....

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Smisek is an idiot, he has, in his brief career as Ceo trashed a fine Airline (Continental) and administered the merger with UA which has been nothing but disastrous.


He has no idea what he is talking about
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