Stowaway at Gatwick
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From: Wingham NSW Australia
Security Risk
GW, having had several instances of having to delay whilst a search of the aircraft was conducted (C130 & B747) to try and locate a device and also having to have a suspicious radio/player removed after leaving the gate (found by a Cabin attendant during pax boarding and told it would be alright by the station traffic officer, just after it was confirmed an explosive device in such a radio brought down the PanAm B747 over Lockerbie) I appreciate your point. How did the unfortunate person get into the gear well undetected? Maybe he was a worker with an airside pass at the departure airport. In any event, I agree that the security aspect cannot be dismissed.
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From: London Under EGLL(LHR) 27R ILS
A sensible question what would have been the likely COD?
Crushed by the landing gear? Or Hyperthermia due to the cold temperatures?
I ask becuase I dont know if there is room in a 757 landing gear bay for anyone to fit in there without being crushed by a Hydrualic powered Gear.
Crushed by the landing gear? Or Hyperthermia due to the cold temperatures?
I ask becuase I dont know if there is room in a 757 landing gear bay for anyone to fit in there without being crushed by a Hydrualic powered Gear.
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From: Larne, UK
Crushed by the landing gear? Or Hyperthermia due to the cold temperatures?
If he wasnt crushed, then it was either Hyperthermia or lack of oxygen.. cant imagine anyone could survive for 2 long at cruising altitude without an oxygen supply?
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From: north of barlu
Dependant on type it is possible to get into a space in the landing gear bay and not be crushed when the gear is retracted. These spaces are sometimes used during engineering inspections.
Just before you ask I am not going to detail types and locations on this forum.
Just before you ask I am not going to detail types and locations on this forum.
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From: Wingham NSW Australia
Crushed or Hypothermia
Heathrow Airport The stowaway could have been crushed or suffered from hypothermia initially and would most certainly have died from oxygen deprivation as the aircraft climbed to cruise altitude where the ambient temperature would/could be as low as Minus 55 degrees C or even lower.
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From: north of barlu
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I wont give out any more information on this subject on an open forum.
To do so would encourage desperate people to try to stow away with the predictable result of death by lack of oxygen or exposure to extreme cold.
What I will make clear to any one who will listen is that if you stowaway in a landing gear bay you will die, the only thing in question is will that death be a long slow lingering one or a quick very painful one?
To do so would encourage desperate people to try to stow away with the predictable result of death by lack of oxygen or exposure to extreme cold.
What I will make clear to any one who will listen is that if you stowaway in a landing gear bay you will die, the only thing in question is will that death be a long slow lingering one or a quick very painful one?
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From: DORSET
With or without..?
I presume you meant with or without stowaway!
One can only sympathise with someone desperate enough to risk death to escape a country which has poverty, corruption, disease, neglect or slavery as a future.
Unfortunately, those of us who worry about a few dollars rise or fall in the price of barrels of crude oil affecting our bank balances are not without guilt, as some of the worse excesses of cruelty are found in the oil-producing regions.
So I think it a bit hypocritical to express concern over one man, when oil-rich nations corruptly kill thousands each year with our conivance.
One can only sympathise with someone desperate enough to risk death to escape a country which has poverty, corruption, disease, neglect or slavery as a future.
Unfortunately, those of us who worry about a few dollars rise or fall in the price of barrels of crude oil affecting our bank balances are not without guilt, as some of the worse excesses of cruelty are found in the oil-producing regions.
So I think it a bit hypocritical to express concern over one man, when oil-rich nations corruptly kill thousands each year with our conivance.
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From: Wingham NSW Australia
Hypocritcal to be concerned over one person !!!
Sharksandwich. Are you suggesting one man does not matter? If you are I feel you are at best deluded, at worst a ****** of the first order. That you can find joking about even one person being killed says enough about you for me to believe the latter.
