Square Pegs....Round Holes (JAL B744 eats baggage container)
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oops !
oops ! - maybe if it got wedged at low idle & didn't get in as far as the fan it'll be just a blade / core inspection & cowl repair - (unlikely I know but optimistic is my middle name !)
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If seen these containers beeing blown over ramp areas during strong wind conditions or by jetblast... and if they come close to a running jet engine, they become a perfect plug
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Some pictures...
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Flight: JL061
Date: 11MAY
A/C Reg: JA8922
Place: LAX
Time: Around 1340L
Taxiway: On " C "
Occurred: Pass " C10 " before " P "
Aircraft clear to push back from gate 101 into taxiway " C " with tail East.
Tower instructed for taxi on " C " and turn right on " P "
PIC 1
One "LAN" container sucked into JL number one engine after JL passed " C10 "
PIC 2
JL061 under tow and was instructed left turn on " Q1 "
Mechanic forgot to insert nose gear pin and breaks the tow-bar. Passengers deplane on taxiway " P "
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Flight: JL061
Date: 11MAY
A/C Reg: JA8922
Place: LAX
Time: Around 1340L
Taxiway: On " C "
Occurred: Pass " C10 " before " P "
Aircraft clear to push back from gate 101 into taxiway " C " with tail East.
Tower instructed for taxi on " C " and turn right on " P "
PIC 1
One "LAN" container sucked into JL number one engine after JL passed " C10 "
PIC 2
JL061 under tow and was instructed left turn on " Q1 "
Mechanic forgot to insert nose gear pin and breaks the tow-bar. Passengers deplane on taxiway " P "
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The papers I read today are reporting the incident as a "mistake by the captain who didn't realise there was a problem until state troopers chased the aircraft down the taxiway and stopped it".
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Effects?
Hmm, never done a "sucked up baggage container" situation in the sim..
CF-6 dont use EPR as primary indication, do they? I wonder what the display on the flight deck would show, severely reduced N1 and a very high EGT, providing the containter is not actually stuck in the fan, and the fan can still rotate?
Probably good luck it got stuck at an angle and did not get sucked up cleanly, there would have been large bits of container going through the engine.
CF-6 dont use EPR as primary indication, do they? I wonder what the display on the flight deck would show, severely reduced N1 and a very high EGT, providing the containter is not actually stuck in the fan, and the fan can still rotate?
Probably good luck it got stuck at an angle and did not get sucked up cleanly, there would have been large bits of container going through the engine.
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Kinda of late, but when they were towing this a/c back to the terminal, the towing crew forgot to put in the bypass pin and causing the towbar to shear and the damage the NLG and a wheel to be cut. Imagine the a/c would have