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Expert 10th Jul 2003 18:20

sexkitten118

MI are Silk Air.

Ttree Ttrimmer

Not exactly correct. The Brunei DCA will only accept & validate UK/JAA or NZ licence holders, hence the fact that there is no requirement for RBA to have other than NZ & UK/JAA authorised examiners.

wandrinabout 11th Jul 2003 15:57

Re the latest advertised vacancies for 319/320 drivers;

- I seem to recall that RB's order last year for the type was for 2x airframes. So are they recruiting for just 2, or are there now more frames on the way?

- The initial ad was for type rating only, now they are asking for 500 on type, any comments on this as to why the change??

Cheers in advance

millerscourt 11th Jul 2003 18:05

Fat Eric I would not be so sure that any MI will go to RBA. I have the feeling that there is an unwritten agreement between SIA and RBA not to take each other's Pilots.

Brunei has vast sums of money in Singapore and that probably explains why no RBA pilot has ever joined SIA to my knowledge.

No SIA Pilot in his right mind would want to join RBA even now

B772 11th Jul 2003 18:41

If my memory serves me correct Capt. NF joined SIA from RBA to fly the B777

Expert 11th Jul 2003 19:34

AW also left RBA a while ago to fly the 777 with SQ

millerscourt 11th Jul 2003 23:25

In that case I stand corrected. Were they actually still in RBA and went straight to SIA or had they already left???

Expert 12th Jul 2003 08:37

They were both working for BI whilst going throught the SQ selection process.

millerscourt 12th Jul 2003 15:09

Expert Oh well I guess the Sultan must have withdrawn his funds from Singapore to support his losses in RBA and that of his brother thus negating the need of Singapore worrying about upsetting him by poaching his Pilots!!.

I am just wondering why no RBA Pilots have joined SIA until recently??

samf 14th Jul 2003 19:03

we haven`t really gotten the answer to the pay questions yet?
THe pay may be lower - but if there is no tax, and if they give You an apartment and more...? Or maybe they dont?
What about living in Brunei? Do You pendle from somewhere else or what? Is it possible to work like 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off? What about bringing Your wife and kids to Brunei - bad idea?
Could someone please give some concrete answers to a scandinavian, considering to flee the scandinavian tax madness??

millerscourt 15th Jul 2003 00:41

samf Don't make the mistake of thinking that Airlines in countries where there is no tax necessarily make you better off financially at the end of the day as they all know how much they have to pay to get Pilots and where there is no tax the salary is reduced accordingly!!

You will merely be swapping one madness for another one.

Bus429 15th Jul 2003 01:35

RBA's medical allowance is pitiful or now non-existent. Anyone considering a move there would be wise to take out medical insurance.
You may pay a lot of tax in Scandinavia but I imagine your health service, for example, is free at point-of-use. Millerscourt makes a good point.

samf 15th Jul 2003 03:00

Yeah, Your points are taken...but I don`t think many of You realize, that the tax here is as high as it is! As a captain in one of the largest airlines up here, You get a salary around, say, 10.000 £ (plus pension and insurance), but after tax all thats left is around 3500 £. Yes, a roughly 65% is kept by the government before You even see Your money.
And then You have to pay all Your expenses for living, iwhich also is higher than most other places in the world (VAT on everything is 25%, cars are to be paid 2-3 times due to government fees etc.)
Therefore it could be interesting to make the comparison with the jobs in Brunei, Qatar, Dubai and other places, where it seems the optimism - and expansion lust - is coming back.
I also consider it to be an experience for the family to remember - (its not ALL about money).
In addition to my earlier questions - which haven`t really been answered yet: What about Islamic orders in Brunei - is it okay for the family, or is it quite restricting for the women for example?

Brgds Sam

Big Kahuna 15th Jul 2003 10:55

samf asked a fairly simple question. Why is everyone avoiding giving an answer.

But here goes, regarding working 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. This does not seem to be possible even though it would be nice. From what I have seen, you get your 8 or so days off a month in Brunei and thats about it, other than the few other days you get in Dubai while working. They get good value for money out of you.

Accommadation is provided, most seen to be fairly reasonable.
As for moving your family to Brunei. Not a bad place at all, but it all depends on how old your kids are. It is reasonably safe.

Well thats about all I can help you with.

Perhaps Borneo wild man could shed some light on the remuneration package.

Best of luck.

COWPAT 15th Jul 2003 15:20

SAMF,

You ask fair questions and rather than subject you to my opinions on top of everyone elses, please send me some form of contact email address for you and I will try to tell you everything that you have asked for without compromising the new "confidentiality" clause that has been inserted into all new contracts.

But keep looking elsewhere would be my advice. There is no future for an expat here at RBA.

samf 15th Jul 2003 15:33

Thanks - on its way.
Sam

New Messenger 21st Jul 2003 12:25

samf
 
It might help you to know that the rate with the Pound (thats what I think you used) is about 2.95. I am told that the Brunei $ has slid about 25% in the last few years. We have had various cuts in our pay, and we await more. I can confirm that as far as I know there has never been a pay increase in the Airline. What you join on is what you will stay on, except if you move seats. It is only a few months ago that they terminated 6 guys contracts, including a Capt. So we now expect the unexpected as well as more cuts. Sorry to sound so down, but we are worked to the bone here at the moment.

Sheep Guts 21st Jul 2003 12:40

I thought the majority of Pilots at Brunie are still expats?

Surley you still have a chance SAMF?

Or is the local onion turning it into a Local Crew only requirement. Thats what its like where I am in Jamaica. You can only get upgraded if your a local. So they employ Expat Captains only....

Cowpat confifentiality clauses aside, and being this an anomnymis forum ( spelling). Are there still people coming online or is all recruitiung stopped?


Regards
Sheep

COWPAT 21st Jul 2003 15:04

Slots would appear to be available for DE Expat Captains for 2 reasons.

1. No locals to satisfy both experience and training criteria to promote.

2. Shortage of "volunteers" to go A319 until we know what the new long haul airplane will be. Difference in monthly allowances between 2 fleets will be about $1500 on average. Hence, DE Captain vacancies on A319.

But beware, as soon as the locals are fit to promote and you are coming to the end of your contract..........!

14U 22nd Jul 2003 13:04

Cowpat
 
When the locals are ready for command, we should go, and just about all of us know and agree with that. I would agree that they were wrong to terminate so many pilots out of the blue with no valid reason given. But those are the risks of being here.

slingsby 22nd Jul 2003 16:32

The two A340-500 have been finally signed for, delivery dates unknown but April04 is being sounded. Presently, the crewing rumour in the lead is for the guys on the other side of WBSB to crew initially, followed by locals currently on the A319 course. I hope thats wrong, it'll create very bad feelings. Source reliable.


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