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Old 25th Jun 2003, 14:20
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Talking Royal Brunei

Hello,

Sorry guys if that topic has been covered before, but would anyone one knows the terms and conditions of employment of Royal Brunei Airlines?????

As you may be aware they are looking for drivers, this time it is NOT through Richworth.....

Thank you for your replies....
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Old 25th Jun 2003, 20:04
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Terms and Conditions gently sliding downhill

Flight Ops standards in general a shadow of the RBA under Capt Fox.

Engineering Standards still good

Morale low and will remain so as long as employees are kept in line through fear and free speech "discouraged"
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Old 2nd Jul 2003, 03:09
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Having said all that, latest rumours suggest CEO is having something done about organising a genuine crew rest compartment for the Frankfurt trips and is also actively backing a move to have the training bonds removed for long standing employees.

These are both positive items and would be welcomed by crews. Hopefully there is some truth to them, not only for the improvements themselves, but also the sign that someone in authority sees us as more than numbers.
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Old 2nd Jul 2003, 12:52
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What about sheepskin seat covers-
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Old 5th Jul 2003, 09:47
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74World,
I wonder what happened with the long standing Rishworth connection?
Any ideas?
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Old 5th Jul 2003, 11:53
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COWPAT I have to agree with you except one point. I do not think that our local management are "out of their depth" I think that the term "lack experiance" would be more suited. They are working hard and have respect for us, and are always willing to chat. They have the same problem with the JC brick wall as we do, its amazing how many times the word "no" can be used in one sentence.
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Old 5th Jul 2003, 15:59
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Conditons are not good at RBA.

No pay rises in 15 Years.
Wage freeze for past 2 years until company makes a profit.
(they cannot make a profit when it is used as an employment scheme)
To compensate for these unproductive staff, wage freeze, loss of allowances.
Days off now given downroute. 8 hour timezone changes, return in 5-7 days, Expect 1-2 days off in Bwn then off again. all for much less pay.

This is not a long term job anymore. Get some time then leave.

Things will pick up soon now that SARS, and the War is over.
Ok for short term stop if you cant get anywhere more secure, or better paid.
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Old 6th Jul 2003, 23:09
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Be careful COWPAT, too close & too obvious.
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Old 6th Jul 2003, 23:50
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Question

Could someone please post the details. What is the pay for captains and first officers on the A320? Also will an expat FO be upgraded when suitable for command?
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Old 7th Jul 2003, 00:59
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The short answer to promotion for expats is ''no''
The company is looking away from the expats and promoting locals. Only when you have 10K plus hours would you be considered for promotion, but then you wouldn't still be there then anyway. Conditions slipping and eroding away, CV's being sent daily. MF + DT come back, all is forgiven.
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Old 7th Jul 2003, 14:28
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Your handle says it all, (From Outer Space), really what planet ARE you from??

‘The short answer to promotion for expats is ''no''
The Company is looking away from the expats and promoting locals.’

The six guys currently on command courses, all expats. Out of the other six guys promoted within the past year, three were expats. I believe that that equates to 75% of the commands available over the past year (9 out of 12) going to expats.

“Only when you have 10K plus hours would you be considered for promotion”

Bull also; a number of the current command course participants have just cracked the 5,000 hr barrier.

“but then you wouldn't still be there then anyway”

By that I assume that you have already made the “right” decision, sent your CV off and are now glad you made the move. I’m sure others are too.

If you want to be controversial try a different angle & try and get the facts right first.
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Old 7th Jul 2003, 17:14
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Touched a nerve there, No controversy intended.

1998 company directive, CS148-02 stated that promotion trend should be directive to local crews. Captaincy promotion for expats to be phased out within 8 years and SFO within 5 years (also published in a BB news article). As with all great plans in WBSB plaza, it didn't go the way they expected, not enough locals were being recruited into the cadet scheme, and those who were (Gill & MH trained) weren't up to scratch (MF words not mine). Therefore along came Rishworth with an influx of very good expat crews. Yes, recent command structures have a trend towards the expat crews, but the list for next line command courses is local bias. Speaking to one bean counter back then, the board wanted eventually to phase out expats within a specific time frame, but local talent is short in availability so reliance on expats will continue for some time.
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Old 7th Jul 2003, 18:16
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Slingsby You say you are happy in RBA!!?? Even without a payrise for 15 years and with all the other deteriorating terms and condition. How come???

Others like Cowpat who despite his complaints over at least the last 2 years still hangs on in there, don't see things your way!

If you are waiting for RBA to make a profit before matters improve then my guess is that day will never come!!

All Airline's T &C 's for ex-pats are going downhill..

Just look at SIA, Gulf Air ,Qatar, Kuwait Airways etc etc and see how low things have gotten. All taking advantage of the turmoil in countries like Canada,Belgium where aviation seems to becoming extinct.
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Old 7th Jul 2003, 19:48
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Slingsby,its OK Ill let you turn the window heat off,when Im up their in a couple of weeks!
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Old 8th Jul 2003, 11:54
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Is Royal Brunei Airlines Hiring pilots at the present time? If so, where do you send a CV please?

Thanks.

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Old 9th Jul 2003, 00:11
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My own departure clearance has been received, just waiting for start up, but due to atc delays I'm waiting and listening out.
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Old 9th Jul 2003, 22:32
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standby to watch most of MI's drivers jump ship - whats left of them anyway.
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Old 9th Jul 2003, 23:09
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Whats the story about UK/JAA/NZL license only? Does that mean other ICAO license holders will not be considered!
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Old 10th Jul 2003, 08:51
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You got it! There are no TRI's from anywhere other than UK and NZ certified to do recurrent training hence the requirement.
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Old 10th Jul 2003, 14:09
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Excuse my ignorance FatEric but who is MI?
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