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DrinkSleepFly&Repeat 16th May 2018 13:40

New Bali Air? Scam or real?
 
Hey guys,

New Bali Air have recently advertised for pilot positions for Dash 8, ATR up to 737. Asking for a friend looking for a job, thoughts on authenticity of this? They are asking dollars for a registration process for interview.

Here is the website:

Home | New Bali Air

Thanks in advance from anyone on the ground in DPS who may know something here.

Love PanAm 16th May 2018 13:59

Corporate address in Makassar for New Air bali?
the address is in a street where there are many shops selling gold and souvenirs. Not really the place for an airline.

Where do they fly? with 11 aircrafts, wat are their destinations?

I think it is a little strange. Be careful!!

johnjohncafe 16th May 2018 21:12

Their website look pretty new : 2018. I applied for their position but did not received any reply yet. This may sounds like Jetair77.

new_era 16th May 2018 23:21


Originally Posted by DrinkSleepFly&Repeat (Post 10148364)
They are asking dollars for a registration process for interview.

Here is the website:

Home New Bali Air

Thanks in advance from anyone on the ground in DPS who may know something here.

Never pay to do an interview!! Never!!

Sikandar 17th May 2018 15:33

I got an invitation as well, i couldn't even find their website on google search. Paying for interview does not make sense.

Eric Janson 17th May 2018 20:42


Originally Posted by new_era (Post 10148838)
Never pay to do an interview!! Never!!

Good advice.

A quick search turned up zero information about this company - looks like a website and nothing more.

Stay clear!

krismiler 17th May 2018 22:55

Instead of paying for the interview, send the money to a Nigerian Prince who is looking to transfer $20 000 000 and promise's you a cut of the money in return for using your bank account and paying the transfer fees. At least that way you have more chance of getting a result.

Sikandar 18th May 2018 16:53

so has anyone paid them $500 and got the details regarding the interview?

Eric Janson 18th May 2018 19:17


Originally Posted by Sikandar (Post 10150534)
so has anyone paid them $500 and got the details regarding the interview?

Anyone who is stupid enough to do that deserves to lose $500 imho.

zepekinio 19th May 2018 07:02

New Bali air
 
Pilots are always gonna be stupid and selfish !

skyishome 2nd Jun 2018 15:06

Domain and name were bought for a year , its a template word press website for 10$ , research came with 0 info about them. I think its a scam and I will not share my info with hem.
A small note to people who advertise minimum requirement pilot jobs to scam pilots, you are the dirtiest scum of this world some people wait years for a lucky break like that and when hopes are up you come and destroy it , Foxtrot Uniform i hope you rot in hell

mai-fatto 21st Jun 2018 01:13

In the email you receive there is only a name of a coordinator of HR., but no address of the company.
Well,.... this newbali air is a real scam ? Anyone has a news about that ?
Thanks !

squarecrow 21st Jun 2018 09:40

So why not email this so called Coordinator back and ask for example a postal address
and other relevant questions and see if you get any believable answers that makes it seem
a proper Company. Reading the other posts my Money is on Internet Scam.

jetjockey696 21st Jun 2018 11:50

The salary is about NONTYPED FO on B737NG approx 27.700.000 rupiah = about 1900usd per month. for typed rated B737 FO. probably 48000000.

Captain = 83 100 000 per month around 5800 usd per month.

Captain ATR and DASH = 69000000 = 4800 usd.

FO typed DASH 8 = 2400usd.

I think Bali Air is for locals. or expats just starting out in the career. worst the expats that nobody wants.. don't expect to much... it Indonesia, they not going to pay market rate. for a local it is a lot money. don't complain about the money.. most airlines pay the around the same.

Eric Janson 21st Jun 2018 14:04


Originally Posted by mai-fatto (Post 10177856)
In the email you receive there is only a name of a coordinator of HR., but no address of the company.
Well,.... this newbali air is a real scam ? Anyone has a news about that ?
Thanks !

Anyone with a phone and an e-mail account can claim to be anyone they want.

After reading all the posts you're still not sure if this is a scam?

Critical thinking is an important part of a Pilot's job - some of you need to do some work in this area.

Love PanAm 22nd Jun 2018 00:44

I went to makassar last week and at the address is a gold toko. Nothing telling about an airline.

Sikandar 22nd Jun 2018 06:35

One of my friends paid the $500 registration fee and since he secured a job in his home town he asked for a refund, before he had transferred the money they would reply to mails anytime and any day. Even on a Sunday.
Now that he asked for a refund they went cold on him. Well do the math...

PK-KAR 25th Jun 2018 05:58

I heard about this airline a few years ago which then died away (happened about the same time as when this topic started here in PPRUNE), and then it propped up again several months ago... and got a call asking about this airline just last week.
The airline doesn't have an AOC yet. Information from within the DGCA, this so-called company hasn't lodged an AOC application either.
The funniest thing was, they haven't got the money either... they are still seeking investors, but information from "a source close to it" said they haven't planned for any routes, schedules or done any aircraft rotation simulations to see how many they need.

This is Indonesia, if the airline ain't real, it ain't worth your time. Go for the real ones, and even with those you still gotta watch where your money goes!
This is the 5th startup wannabe (yes, wannabes for even the startups) I've come across in the last 4 years, and yet another one living in dreamland (instead of doing the setup work).

Been there, done that...

luai 26th Jun 2018 08:56

More news about this company ?

I received a msg from HR said :

About our company, it was started back in 1970, but we ceased our operation due to certain unforeseen circumstances but we are back again.

,,

Love PanAm 27th Jun 2018 09:52


Originally Posted by luai (Post 10181975)
More news about this company ?

I received a msg from HR said :

About our company, it was started back in 1970, but we ceased our operation due to certain unforeseen circumstances but we are back again.

,,

whoooaaaoaoaooaoa

it took a long time to come back!!

Eric Janson 27th Jun 2018 10:18


About our company, it was started back in 1970, but we ceased our operation due to certain unforeseen circumstances but we are back again.
Sounds like a good reason to send them $500! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

PK-KAR 28th Jun 2018 04:19

1970? He means the old Bali Air? That was gone in 2004/5 when parent Bouraq was struggling, and Bouraq finally went bust in 2005, and has been in bankruptcy courts.
This new Bali Air has nothing to do with the old Bali Air other than name. Nice "try" by the HR.

squarecrow 28th Jun 2018 08:58

Add that to Love PanAm's post about seeing what was at the Address in Makassar.
Sounds totally believable, NOT!

pineteam 28th Jun 2018 16:00

Wow, I just had a quick look to the website. If it's a scam they put a lot of effort into it. Lol:}


Originally Posted by new_era (Post 10148838)
Never pay to do an interview!! Never!!

+1

Love PanAm 28th Jun 2018 23:30

going to Denpasar next week.
does New Air Bali have airplanes there?
what routes do they fly?

seems to be a phantom airline

luai 1st Jul 2018 09:53

interview date
 
Hello ,,
i just received a msg for the HR again ,,
who received this msg guys ? And who is going down there ?
.. Here's the message



Will it possible for you to present yourself for a day in coming week? We are conducting interview till 6th of July, 2018. You can come here for a day to attend interview, may sign contract on same day as you are paying fees in cash and can go back to your destination. You will have ample time to start SIM, generally it will take around two to three months to start as there are many stage are to be followed also required many documentation from DGCA as well as from various Govt. department. And once we have all the documents ready with us can start your training as per your convenient time.


Kind Regards,
B. Didi.

dan1165 1st Jul 2018 12:09

Paying fees in cash ?!!!:ooh::=

Eric Janson 1st Jul 2018 13:38

@luai
Have you not read this thread - or have you decided to ignore everything that people have written to warn you about these scammers?

By all means go - give them your cash. You can learn a valuable life lesson in the process! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

WingNut60 1st Jul 2018 13:50

Is this the same crew who had a Trilander sitting at Seppingan with empty nacelles for oh, I don't know, 10 years or so?

You'd be better off having a look at Susi Air.
Or send your money to me, I can help, honest I can.

luai 1st Jul 2018 16:10

@wingnut60
im not going to Indonesia
im not not going to pay 500$ for this scam
i posted this just to warn other people about this scam ..

DrinkSleepFly&Repeat 15th Jul 2018 11:51

So to sum it up, as initially suspected, looks to be fraudulent. My colleague who was interested gave them a call and they were unable to answer simple questions on fleet, interview, simulator training or anything for that matter.

The name used by the fraudster is Budiano Didi and there is a "Captain Jow" also. They use [email protected] I suggest everyone who cares to report it to the cyber crimes unit, email is [email protected]

For what its worth anyway.


wagon007 16th Jul 2018 14:36

its a total scam!!! :=

Vaero 9th May 2019 09:52

It looks like they're back at it again. Just saw posts for them on some recruitment websites. Their email is still [email protected] and the emails in the message they sent "[email protected]" don't exist...

squarecrow 9th May 2019 13:18

Maybe they think after 1 year everyone has forgotten about them from last times attempts:}

A P 22nd May 2019 13:43

Makassar is famous in Indonesia for dishonesty. It is scam city. Stay away.

092 10th Mar 2020 16:58

yes it is fraud

Love PanAm 18th Mar 2020 01:28

they moved the address in Papua now.
Harder to visit them.

where are all the airplanes flying? Not in Bali, nobody can see them on the tarmac.

Zak123 2nd Jul 2020 21:31

I've contacted them for the last hiring position of the A320, but they asked me to fund the type rating fees with a 250 hours as line training with one of their partners.
the problem that they asked me to send them the money before receiving the contract !!! this is one of the things confusing me. I've more to discuss about this job position.
,

Zymian 3rd Jul 2020 05:11

Sure send them the money ASAP.

im sure it’ll work out just great.

squarecrow 3rd Jul 2020 09:01

Yes indeed why would you send any money to any unknown or known
whatever before signing a contract. := reading other posts I doubt
any contract with this lot would be worth the paper its written on anyway.


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