Jetstar Japan
 

Does anyone know much updated info about JQ Japan?

I have found some forums, but they date back to 2012.

Appreciate any info

Thanks

They are hiring and have opened up opportunities to Jetstar Australia pilots to go over there on leave without pay. That's all I know.

All gone quiet due the CP and head of C&T over the last couple of years exerting their authority and trying, by any means, to make the operation "pure" and being EXTREMELY gaijin unfriendly.

At the same time they (with the support, tacit or proactive of some fellow ex JAL refugees) have allowed/are instilling procedures that are "entertaining" to hear, fortunately they haven't had an accident.

And...NO, Jalboys, you do NOT fly an Airbus like it's a Boeing, for once your "we're old, Japanese, male so we can do whatever we want..." mantra should not be your "get out of growing up and being professional" card.

However I digress.

IF LWOP is being offered then sh*t and fans will collide simply because no Jetstar mainline pilot will walk in and just accept the kabuki and crap that poses as JAL/JetstarJapan "professionalism" ala "welcome to the 1960's!"

Well - that and their "it's just like a Boeing" stuff!

Interestingly I believe JetstarJapan are cancelling flights due lack of crew (no fleet expansion) whilst down the road JetstarPacific have recruited 25+ (not sure if crew or just Captains) pilots for another 5(?) extra hull arrivals this year, recruitment ongoing.

Strangely (or maybe not) both JetstarJapan local and Jetstar HQ management are all too aware they're being screwed over by the JAL mafia in Japan - especially in some ways that should make the Qantas group/brand squirm - yet choose to do nothing positive and hope string and gaffa tape will hold it all together so they can - at least, maybe - get their bonuses.

Would be very interesting if anything like a public audit/inquiry were ever held.

Hello....and welcome to the reality of JetstarJapan.

Cheers!

One thing is for sure, Japan needs pilots real bad. And it's a country which requires a 12 months training period for a 10.000 hrs captain to fly there..If the system/mentality at the top does not progress then I am afraid the recently born companies will have a hard time expanding or existing.

Galdian has hit the nail firmly on the head.

Ops control is in the hands of JAL cast-offs and they do not want any foreigners. End of story.

They tolerate the CEO but keep him in the corner of the mushroom shed.

CP has his own "proclivities" which actually led to his gating from JAL and he turned up at GK via Fuji Dream. The place is a hornet's nest of nepotism and harassment.

Think they have stemmed the red ink mainly due to lower fuel prices so now only losing about USD4m a month instead of 7m.

I saw a few expats for Jetstar Japan wandering through a few airports and all of them were walking a few paces back from the trainer with their heads down, finally managed to talk to one and he was very unhappy. Air Japan is the best gig in Japan and its night and day with Jetstar so if you have the luxury of choice go to AJX.

Any Jetstar Oz guys going to apply for LWOP? What r your thoughts?

Raski

Sorry but unclear - you HAVE been called for an interview or are you asking if anyone else has been??
If called - DEC or F/O??

Thanks
Cheers :ok:

Sent PM.
Cheers. :ok:

Hey Galdian,
I read your previous post regarding JJP but that dates back to January. Could you please PM me the same thing you did to Raski as what you think of the current state of affairs there ?
Cheers

how things change.

In Jan 2016 pilotcpb mentioned that AJX was a better place to go to, it probably is but morale has dropped considerably there lately, schedulers, all of a sudden, unable to assist with decent flights at the beginning and end of the time in Japan, guys are now losing a day in Japan to meet commute requirements, schedules becoming crazy again, lots of fatigue and "interesting" patterns.

Hi Lancelot
Pprune says you have elected to, or cannot, receive PM's.
If you can PM TO me with an email address I'll pass on as requested.

Cheers
galdian :ok:

Hi Raski,

Can you tell me what your Skype interview consisted of?

Cheers

Does any one know if expats that come via an agency are placed on the seniority list for a possible upgrade in the future?

Time to command
 

The time to command for a Japanese F/O is 18 months to 2 years. The upgrade time for an expat F/O, is when he resigns and moves on. Don't expect an upgrade an don't expect to be welcomed by the flight management team. That is not to say there are many great guys there.:}

Hello guys!
Has anyone had a Skype interview with JJP?
What kind of questions do I need to expect during it????
How does the atmosphere look into the company ???
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Galdian!!! Could You please send a PM message to me the same way as Raski
thanks in advance!

hi,

i will have skype interview next week. Thank for your comments on this thread so I know what to expect for Skype as well as my minor chance of command.

I have 2 other questions:

1. Does anybody have an idea about the roster? Night flying or 4sectors, how many night out of base per month?

2. How your take home will be like? Parc told me the tax will be around 30%, so take home, according to my calculations, USD5000, am I correct?

Thanks

take home $5000, not going to give you much month at the end of the money in Japan!

thanks, your your reply. yes, 5000$ is not so much in tokyo, fortunately, Parc gives $1500 house allowance and $1000 commuting, which are not bad.

Any idea on the roster please?

nj, do your homework VERY carefully.

Tokyo is not cheap to live in AND commute flights may not always be so cheap!

The ONLY thing this job is good for is spending a year getting your 500 PIC and going elsewhere

You need to make sure that amount is not taxed, otherwise, you can slash 30% off because you will be a resident of Japan and required to pay taxes on all of your income. JSJ has only a few upgrades every year with many guys that have been there 5 years still waiting with many giving up and leaving. You might also want to ask yourself why there are only one or two gaijin's working there, because there's probably a good reason for that. Japan is in a serious decline with conditions getting worse. The BS required to deal with the JCAB and with these LCC's is NOT worth it.

the problem with that Dom, is that these kind of get hours quick schemes often have rather "poor" conditions attached. These then become the norm and before we can wipe the manure from our eyes, the race to the bottom has been won by all of us.

Dom

JJ aren't looking for Captains - only expat F/O's, apparently they can't offer enough baubles to encourage the local F/O's to fly with them and/or remain with them.

Why??

JJ DID have around 12-15 gaijin Captains a couple of years ago - however a "purge towards purity" was undertaken and now there's a couple...if that.

What there IS is a number of court cases taken by Captains against JJ pending - including a couple of local Captains, very un japanese like! :p

Cheers.

Does anyone have more recent information?

I'm curious what a typical month would look like there.

Has the upgrade situation sorted itself out? I have heard that it takes about 3 years to become eligible for a captain seat.

I have also heard that overall it was a better place for a foreigner than Air Japan.

Nothing in the last year? There's more discussion going on at companies with 2-3 airplanes. Is there a better discussion somewhere about J* Japan?

I have the same questions. I'm thinking no news is good news, perhaps? I'm a little leery to listen to much on these forums, as there are no content pilots found on forums based on my experiences.

Hi guys,

Any news on this? Can't seem to find the terms and conditions...

https://www.jetstar.com/jp/ja/career...older-/2223085

Cheers,

booze

Essentially the above information is no longer correct.
Things have improved dramatically.

Probably not a lot of comments on here in recent years because there were very few foreign pilots, but that’s started to change rapidly.

I’d say most of the LWOP pilots from Jetstar are enjoying it here. Yeah some frustration at times but overall happy. Maybe easier to swallow if already used to Jetstar procedures.

Average take home, all up, maybe just shy of $US9000 after tax but if commuting you need to pay for a ticket home out of that, and still accomodate yourself in Japan also. (Under $1000 for rent and utilities if you stick near Narita)

Cheers for that!

booze

Has Anyone done online interview with Jetstar Japan recently?
What kind of questions will be asked?
Any info would be much appreciated.

How is it like for Europeans over there? Commuting contract 20ON/10OFF? (Long and expensive commute I suppose….) Training wise? (Apart from the extra 2 weeks for JCAB exams…)
Work atmosphere among expats/locals?
Any objective comments welcome!

Upgrade
 

I hope you get a reply - even if just PM as info from any gaijin actually there seems non existant.

It might be called Jetstar but it they do things their own old JAL ways - and allowed to by Jetstar head management which doesn't say much about porn* management.
They have openly indicated they do not want gaijin pilots and only go through the charade of gaijin screening because forced to.
Along the same lines a gaijin upgrade - interesting western thought!

Things may have changed.

For interest a number of Japanese F/O's have left the chosen land - and J*J - and gone to J*P, a couple (maybe more by now) have been upgraded to Captain.

Good luck.

Thayson your PM box full, clear some space if you want a response.
Cheers.

your inbox not accepting for whatever reason (probably as new user), PM email address if you want.

Jetstar Japan salary
 

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