tigerair captains pay
 

Hi, just wondering if anyone working as a skipper at tiger can give me the actual average take home pay after tax? I see the tax rate for capts is between 8-12%, but whats the real rate that is used? Would appreciate if one of u working there can give me the accurate numbers. Thanks

use 20k as gross pay

tools to calculate payable tax all found in link below

IRAS: Tax Calculators


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Hey Stallone, thanks alot for that mate! Are u working there? Also the 20k gross, includes the basic (11k) + hourly pay is it? What would be the average number of hrs u would do per month? Thanks very much, appreciate it

no I don't work at tigerair

yes it includes the basic and flight pay, based on an average of 80hrs per month

Thanks! Its interesting to know how much the tax rate exactly is and how many hrs a guy does a month, cos the first 20hrs included in basic, and i believe its SGD 113/hr above 20. 20k gross would be good even by Sin standards

yes the pay is definitely good to "normal people"

but when you sit back and think about the responsibilities a captain is being entrusted with, 20k doesn't come easy.

when everything is going well, 20k seems easy money. but when something goes wrong up there, you will feel every penny of the 20k is truly hard earned

Couldn't agree with u more, i believe what we go through on some days cannot be valued, seriously the stress levels associated is just crazy at times, currently there are days i do 6 sectors, and on the final one back to base, conditions, a tired crew, and many other factors just make it so hard, 20k is like u say very small on those days :(

tigerair captains pay
 

6 sectors?
Wow.. U are a highly utilised crew my friend.
Throw in bad Wx, congestion, and minimum fuel, brain saturation would be the likely outcome. But a multi-crew environment is always a boon in this industry.
Either way, Its OK to Go-Around..
80-90 hrs is ave.. But pushing to max 100/28days is not uncommon.
Onus is on the crew to keep track.

212,OOO SGD based on estimate 950/annum

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No kidding mate, its what the industry has come down to, better get used to it sadly. I believe though the conditions at tiger are much better

Pilots leaving
 

the refueller told me that a bunch of Captains are waiting for start dates at EK to become FOs
if Tiger doesn't start paying competitive wages soon, more are set to leave for a REAL career

S$11k basic with S$115/hr flight pay, averaging 80hrs per month

how much more is considered competitive??

please enlighten

The pay would definitely be good for me but agree depends on where you're coming from really i.e experience and whether there are any realistic alternatives and personal circumstances - single/married.

In terms of how much more is considered competitive!?... again a moot point but pilots at my place seem to think that a 0% tax environment, free housing and free schooling is 'normal'. 0% tax is far from normal if you're coming from Europe and other places and schooling/housing are normally for 'contract' jobs or permanent ones at airlines undergoing massive expansion to attract pilots. Some folk seem not to distinguish between a contract job from a permanent one but if you've no loyalty to a particular country and your goal is to earn money over a set period and move on or settle back home then suppose not totally unreasonable as contracts can be quite long (3 years). Sometimes contracts have good commuting options also. You certainly can get more money in China and the Middle East (given tax, schooling, housing). People sometimes don't consider cost of living also, a lower salary in say Vietnam may actually be better than that in Singapore but folk would rather compensate their standard of living to come out on top. It is easier for some to work away from home with a young family also but again personal circumstances.

I don't fly for Tiger but got a couple of friends who are Capts there... Re. people leaving for Emirates - when people leave don't assume it's just about money - people want to try longhual or no longer want to fly for a low cost carrier. Also people want to be closer to home e.g Europe or UK or want to work for a more organised company. I know of a few people who don't actually like Singapore or got bored of it reasonably quickly.

Stallone have to agree with u mate, its one of the best deals going, not sure why some think otherwise

Yes u have a point though sometimes most often than not its a balance ur trying to strike. For me and a load of others i would be happy anywhere other than the middle east, but for some maybe the sand pit is awesome. So taking M.E out that would leave china as probably the best place simply for the dough and commuting. I switched from ultra long haul to the 320 simply cos of lifestyle and yes money wasn't the sole reason, however looking at what has been said about tiger and the guys working there, its no doubt arguably the best gig going for 320 rated guys and in that part of the world, taking into consideration the off time per month is very good, but maybe for some its not good enough, well good luck with trying to find better ones in the current hole our job is in...

Initial command possibilities with tiger?
 

Any idea for those working in Tiger or close to management whether they accept experienced FO on the bus rated A330/340 with International Airline experience to be considered as a new direct entry Capt on A320 who is willing to sign the bond?
Is there a programe as such for initial command from direct entry FO. What sort of experience currently they are giving opportunity for their senior FO's to be upgraded.
Appreciate all the replies guys. Cheers

Flybywire1 i think u should have a good chance as In a pretty fast command, i'm not too sure about the DEC for senior F/Os but i know they promote fast, i'll try to ask someone and let u know

Dear FlyByWire1,

The upgrades in Tiger are by seniority, you're going to the bottom of the list with approximately 120 FOs in front of you. Regarding direct entry as Captain coming from a FO position in another company, forget it...that does not exist in Tiger.

Cheers

Hey guys, can you please tell me how you get to the 20k a month? I've been adding the basic plus hourly rates and it's more like 17k gross so about 15k nett. Is there any extra income not noted here that should be considered?
Thanks in advance.

A319rider. I think its 11k basic, includes first 20hrs. And average around 80 a month. So at around 12% tax a month, youll make around $12.5k US that is, but yes i too have heard bigger numbers and its the reason i started this thread.

12.5k usd in Singapore is not that much actually. To make it attractive you should get about 15k. At least IMHO.

I agree but the thing is, i used a fairly low 80 hrs a month, most are doing close to 90 plus if u work an off days, the pay is very good, most are supposedly taking home around $14k

It doesn't seem so bad, but I would not work on days off. By the way how many days off do you get a month? Is it a fixed pattern or random?
So you get about 18000 sgd before tax, that works out at about 16000 sgd after tax right?

Thanks guys for all the replies given. Happy landings..

It's 5 days on 2 off
Then, 5/5, 5/2, 5/4


It sounds damn good to me. If you're married with kids, no money is enough for you. Having said that, 15-16k net income is very good even by SIN standards

That's 15k or 16k singapore dollars, which is about 12.5k USD. I agree that's not bad money at all, but defeneatly not so good in singapore where a rent will set you back about 3k or 4k USD.
What makes it attractive is the fixed pattern. Is that a changing 5/2, 5/5, 5/4 and then start again with 5/2?
How about vacations? 30 days a year? Any ID benefits?
Thanks for your replies.

Yes rent will put u back $3k for a 2 bedroom condo. But other living costs are not that much higher than other parts in the region. The off days go like: 5 earlies, 2 off. Followed by 5 lates, 4 off. And after this u do 5 on (earlies i guess) and 5 off and back to 5 earlies and 2 off.... This is a very attractive part of the package. I believe ID after 6 months. 25 days leave i'm told

That sounds quite promising. How is the flying? Do you have a lot of red eye flying? Any overnights?
How do you get to work? Taxi? Bus? Because I know that getting a car is difficult and very expensive.

Not really sure about the overnights, but there are like i mentioned earlier, 5 late days, so i presume these could mean overnights also. They're apparently doing like 80hrs on average, as for transport to work, it would be taxi, unless u stay in front of a MRT thats close to the airport.

True for this month, but new aircraft arriving and frequencies increasing/network expanding.

Singapore CAA bringing in fatigue management for all local operators which may limit annual hours but should be less tiring.

A whole year and must go through the process and meet the standards, yes this is a bit unreasonable.:rolleyes:

No more commuting contracts, but if you are on one already you can keep it. Not sure about part time but full time employees would be preferred.

Basically, decide if it suits you. Plenty of people have walked in with a CPL and 200 hours total time, got what they wanted and moved on to greener pastures. A few retired legacy airline pilots have got a few extra years flying in before turning 65.

On balance quite a reasonable option if you don't want China or the sand pit.

Thank you all guys. You are posting some really helpful info for anyone wanting to move to tiger or any other company in Singapore.
One doubt I have regarding the roster. Is it a 5/2, 5/4/, 5/5 and start again or 5/2, 5/4, 5/2, 5/5 and start over?

5/2 5/4 5/5 and back to the same order

That's good. Are you able to take your leave on blocks of 5 days to fit between your days off? Or you have to take them all together?

Tgw123 when you do this night flights departing SIN between 7-9pm are they usually 2 long sectors or 4 sectors?
During your 5 days on, do they change you between earlies and lates or you do 5 in a row of either earlies or lates?

Yes u can take them every other month i'm told, so every other month u have the option of 10 block days off. Overnights are 2 sec flights, they rarely do 4 sec flights, the early days are early days, late days are late days, apparently this works very well

Going into the operations. How are the turnarounds? 30 min I guess? What about the fuel policy, do they give you freedom or are quite strict about extra fuel?
What are the shortest and longest flights you have? What's the average sectors you do a month?

Tgw123 thanks again for the info. I see the actual rotation is 5/2 5/4, 52/ 5/5. That makes more sense (although is not so good) compared to what was said before of 5/2 5/4 5/5.
Regarding the leave, why do you have to be back in Singapore 2 or 3 days before flying? Is arriving the day before not enough?
Can you shed some more light on those transitions between earlies and lates? Are the changes happening within the 5 days period?
I usually fly plenty of 4 sector days a month so that wouldn't be a problem, unless they are really long 4 sectors.
When you are on lates, are all the flights on that bracket from about 7-9pm coming back 4-6am?
I hope you have the time and patience to answer.
Cheers and happy landings.

Regarding the 3 days back in SIN from leave; how can a rostering dept. check when I come back? Maybe they can if I travel on a company aircraft, but no one can force me to pick a phone during my annual leave! Ok, maybe I am a bit naive...

Btw EK is doing something similar. They want you back a bit earlier to be aclimatised. So you come back from leave to adapt to the UAE timezone and the first flight you get brings you back to the timezone where you came from a few days before.

Wow those are some nasty transitions but I guess I could manage them. What I think isn't fair is having to be there 3 days before. If I have 12 days off and I wanna go to Europe that would basically mean I can only be home for 6 or 7 days max. I'd always go back a day before my duty to be rested, but forcing me to be there 3 days before it's just b*****t. That may just be a deal breaker.

Just wanna ask if Tiger Air is currently hiring. Thanks