Beware folks: VietJet playing a scam
 

Many guys been offered ridiculous terms by this unprofessional operation, they are trying to undercut paramount, please stay away from them unless ur going through paramount

What kind of terms are they offering?

are they still flying do it yourself approaches w no Jepp plates? , expired databases? etc...etc...reports from former colleagues who bailed from there

Just had a couple of guys telling me the HR guy is trying to offer them some pittance of a deal, not sure about the operating procedures but just be careful not to go directly with them.

Thanks mate for the heads up.

A friend of mine was offered a deal through an agent for a 320 job.....30k Usd, and a job there......it's a bit steep for 10 K rating at Pan Am.

Whatever they are up to, its very shady, unless thru paramount, i wouldnt trust what these guys say

The contract I saw from Vietjet is the same Paramount has to offer.

That may have been last year, paramount changed the terms in Jan. What was told to me was a flat $120/hr x the number of hrs u fly and THATS IT!! Zero Basic, Zero sector allowance... Ridiculous, but maybe there are some who might take it, sad what this job has come to

Not that i'd take it... but 120/hr doesn't seem all that bad to me but depends on where you're coming from i.e is it for capt/FO, are you experienced/non etc?? If experienced plenty of better options, I agree in the likes of China, ME even Vietnam Airlines (understand the door closed for FO but still possible for Capt)

Based on 80hrs, 120 x 80 = $9600 per month and based on a more modest 60 = $7200. Paying all salary as flt/duty pay is nothing new... just look at Ryanair and Easyjet(Flexicrew) in Europe. Must remember to look at the cost of living also compared to, Singapore, Hong Kong even the developed cities in China i.e Beijing, Shanghai.

However for me, sometimes there's more to life than just money... when i asked a colleague (who's eager to move on) about another airline recruiting recently, he replied.... 'No way, I have a family man!'

Paying a flat rate sounds like they dont know how much flying you will do, so they dont have to pay anything if you stuck on the ground.

it sound like another Dumb HR dept that think they are smart.

Hello Fellow aviators,

I would like to join the vietjet A320 cadet program. Can somebody pass me the contact details of paramount please. I am an indian CPL holder in the process of obtaining my 320 type rating... Thank You

They're actually quite smart, they'll pay peanuts to fools who go and buy type endorsements just to accept **** jobs with **** pay. They love it!!

Has anyone got more info regarding the new contract agency? Apparently there are a couple lined up and according to a buddy, offering the same as the Airline!! And with the new aircrafts coming i believe they will need crew desperately, but are people so desperate that they'll accept such terms??

Just how many Indian CPL holders, that have payed for an A320 type rating are there? They seem to be everywhere.
And ny info is they don't run a cadet programme, I could be wrong of course.

Same contract as Paramount, You get a base pay plus fifty hours flight pay plus pay for 25 sectors. Guys are flying 90+ hours a month. So extra pay anything over 50 hour and over 25 sectors. I'm not to sure about the cadet pay

Tknapp are u sure the same terms as paramount are offered by the airline? Also are the new agencies also offering the same?

Dont pay for type
 

They don´t take anymore cadets in. Do not pay for typerating without a job guys, its waste of money. There is coming 4 new planes, but 3 of them are wet leased and there are already lots of pilots waiting for their line trg to start. You need at least 500h on type to get even an interview. Only if you are vietnamise citizen you may have a chance, but you are probably indian so dont waste your time and money for this.

AVOID VIETJET AT ALL COSTS!!!!! Imagine everything bad about an airline, and you will find it there.

Hey Hornet Drvr, Are you working there now? I saw from your previous posts it looked like you worked at Air Mekong. Are you back in the States flying a RJ for the regionals? or did Vietjet pick you up? I don't recall any other Americans other than a few Viet Q other than myself here. Whats so bad about it? The only difference between VNA and Vietjet is

1.Younger more friendly cabin crew at Vietjet
2.As a Captain you can make more at Vietjet than VNA
3.Changing schedules every day normal stuff in Vietnam
4.VNA you can have a crew meal every leg if you want
5.The only bad is a self funded insurance if you go through Paramount.
6.MX, I have had more MELs in the States than here in Vietnam.
You don't have the FAA breathing down your neck to write up every stupid little thing.

If you are out here and you don't like it leave! Im sure you will make more money flying in the States with ASA I believe all you guys came from, might be wrong though.

I´m afraid there is no " go through Paramount" anymore...

Did you hear that from Paramount. Thats the first I had heard of it.

Even worst, Paramount doesn´t have a clue about what´s going on there...not being able to inform the candidates about the application status.

tknapp.

The guy from Human resources department is offering, under the table, other conditions (bad or good but different ones). Seems they want to, somehow, break their business with Paramount.
At the same time there is another agency in Dublin offering the same terms than the HR guy.

Some key points:
. italian mob and cronyism (coming from an italian p2f airline)
.people paying bribes. Some of them to get the job and all the others to get better roster.

email from Paramount to the candidates:
".....There is a possibility that you will be contacted directly by Mr.xxx or other VietJet staff. If this occurs, please advise me immediately...."

:confused:

Yeah, I did here about bribes to rostering,I think some guys have complained about it from what I heard. That's interesting about Paramount.If that's the case about contracts they will loose a lot of pilots once VNA start to hire again.

What's going on? Heard that a few new hired captains went through conversion course recently. Also heard that half of them failed sim ride.

Anybody got hired via Paramount or the agency in Dublin?

Actually, the contract being offered is the same one that was offered six months ago. There was an attempt to lower the contract slightly to around 10+ per month (is that so far off for hanging out in Saigon?) but that isn't happening. Just one more ppruner at work slamming another airline that wouldn't hire him. They have hired several pilots in both seats since May and are continuing to do so. A few did fail the CAAV check but of course, that couldn't possibly be the pilots fault due to lack of prep, could it. I thought it was a much easier check than others I've done in the past.

They appear to be hiring direct now. Good or bad, time will tell.

If you have some solid 320 time and find yourself at the end of your contract, it's not a bad place, as some would like to make it out.

Welcome to Vietnam boys!!!! They've also recently taken on former COO of Air Mekong, Les Stephens (a.k.a. - Total Scumbag).... I guess since he ran one airline into the ground they thought he was qualified for something at Vietjet as well....even after he failed his A320 checkride :D

Yes I did work at AMK, and we had more MELs than in the States - we also had a lot of maintenance induced air emergencies. Unfortunately, you apparently have yet to work for an outfit, who in order to cut corners they decide not to spend money on things like maintenance. Don't think it can happen at Vietjet??? Just wait until they fall on hard times and can't pay the bills anymore or the inherent Vietnamese greediness takes over, and with the recent addition of a certain Les Stephens (former AMK COO) at Vietjet, I have absolutely no doubt he will make such things a reality for you.

And as for aviation authorities "breathing down" necks, just wait until they don't fix your airplanes anymore, the CAAV cites the company and then it all goes away because they were paid off. Do you hold your life and the life of your passengers so cheaply???? Rules in aviation are there for a reason because in all likelihood they were 'written in blood' so to speak.

And yes, YOU ARE WRONG about all AMK pilots coming from ASA or the regionals.

I don't like it and I did leave on a professional level, so I'm way ahead of you, though I do still live there. And as for making more money, ASA and flying RJs, rest assured, my career is going a good deal better than yours I'll venture: I AM making more money as a 737 Captain getting ready for transition to the A330 at a much better company (that I didn't have to pay to work for) than VietJunk or VNA....but thanks for your concern!