Susi not Legit
 

Quoting a few posts earlier....
>PT6A
>I don't think that kind of clause is legal, SUSI is not exactly known for being >totally legit anyway!

You're right about that. She has Herry Bhakti and the DirJen Imigrasi in her pocket along with friendships in media (Surya Paloh), politics (Prabowo, Megawati) and airlines (merpati MD). The latter arranged with her to ruin a certain NZ-ers career in Indo when he jumped ship. Yeah, watch out for her.

IF

What about the recruitment, are they contacting the pilots that they requested documents a
couple weeks ago??:ugh:

For pilots that do not know.... the Indonesian DGCA has place a 250HRS on type on all aircraft (PART 121 and 135)

so you need 250hrs min on A320/B737/ATR etc.. before you are accept, IF YOU ARE A EXPAT PILOT. no more ZERO hours pilots need to apply. even you have a indonesian licence or not.

Protecting the local work force....

sorry to hear that, hope the airlines could negotiate that to permit pilots arrive to Indonesia.

detik Finance : Ini Syarat Baru Pilot Asing di Maskapai Penerbangan Lokal

Monday, 21/01/2013 10:45 PM

Jakarta - domestic airlines now can not fool around hiring foreign pilots. Section, Ministry of Transport (MoT) to tighten regulation on the use of foreign pilots by the national carrier.
MoT confirmed, the move was made in order to improve aviation safety, in particular to prevent a number of serious incidents and incidents involving aircraft of foreign pilots.
"Foreign pilots must have experience flying the type of aircraft flown, particularly at 121 and 135 air carriers," said Transport Ministry was quoted as saying on the official website on Monday (1/21/2013).
To that end, the Ministry of Transport in this case requires DGCA foreign pilot license to use Indonesia or will validate the license must have a minimum of 250 hours of flying experience on the type of aircraft to be flown.
MoT added to airline operators who will hire foreign pilots, must meet all requirements including minimum experience requirement at the time of filing foreign pilots flying for validation or endorsement to the Directorate General of Transportation.
"The provisions come into force starting from January 10, 2013 in accordance DGCA letter dated January 10 AU.403/1/1/DJPU.DKUPPU/2013 number on the Use of Foreign Pilot," wrote the statement.
Currently the Ministry of Transportation records, there are about 600 foreign pilots working in the national airlines such as Lion Air, Citilink, Garuda Indonesia, Wings Air and Sriwijaya Air.

That's what i was talking about.

Another place were you can forget to apply if you don't have the hours.

But here in Europe........:yuk:

Part 135 as well? Well that includes Susi Air, now. So what will Susi Air do now? Hire local pilots? bwahahahaha

I think Aunty Susi already did.... :ok:

Jakarta Post..

In a bid to improve aviation safety in the country, the Transportation Ministry has recently issued a new regulation requiring domestic carriers to only hire foreign pilots with a minimum 250 hours of flying time.

Should a local airline wish to hire a pilot to fly an Airbus plane, he or she must have 250 flight hours on that type of plane.

Bambang S. Ervan, the ministry spokesman, said the new regulation was aimed at preventing serious incidents involving foreign pilots.

“This is in anticipation of any aviation incident in the country, especially those involving foreign pilots. The regulation has been effective since Jan. 10,” Bambang said in Jakarta on Monday.

He said the new regulation was applicable to passenger airlines that bore Air Operator Certificates (AOC) 121 and 135 — scheduled and non-scheduled/chartered flights. “The regulation does not apply to pilots who fly airplanes with a capacity of less than 30 passengers,” he said.

Previously, the Indonesian government had not stipulated a specific amount of flight time for foreign pilots authorized to fly with domestic carriers, only that foreign pilots could work for Indonesian airlines for up to two years.

Most of the pilots, Bambang said, had only around 50-150 hours of flight time before they signed up with Indonesian carriers. “We believe that experienced [foreign] pilots with more flight hours can bring added benefits to our aviation industry before the slots are re-occupied by locals,” he said.

Currently, Bambang said there were some 600 non-national pilots flying with the country’s major operators: Lion Air, Garuda Indonesia, Sriwijaya Air, Citilink and Wings Air. The remaining 5,000 pilots are local.

The Indonesian aviation industry is suffering a shortage of local pilots in the face of a rapid fleet expansion by airlines in recent years.

The ministry has allowed airlines to temporarily hire foreign pilots or halt their fleet expansions pending the availability of more local pilots.

According to the ministry, Indonesia needs up to 600 new pilots annually, more than three times the total number of pilots who graduate from the state-run Curug Aviation School in Tangerang, Banten, the Aviation Academy in Surabaya, East Java and 12 other smaller private aviation schools, some of which are affiliated with local carriers.

“We are going to open two more aviation schools this year, in Medan [North Sumatra] and Makassar [South Sulawesi] to increase our capacity to produce local pilots,” Bambang added.

Contacted separately, Edward Sirait, the general affairs director of the country’s largest low-cost carrier, Lion Air, said that the new regulation had forced the airline to accelerate its capacity to produce more local pilots. “We plan to establish an aviation training academy in Kalimantan this year in order to keep up with our expanding fleet and the regulation,” Edward said.

Garuda Indonesia vice president of communications Pujobroto said that the regulation did not affect the airline’s plans as it had already limited the use of foreign pilots.

“At the co-pilot level, foreign nationals must have logged a minimum of 500 hours flight time for one type of aircraft before joining Garuda. For a pilot, the figure is 1,000 hours,” Pujobroto said.

He also said that the co-pilots and pilots underwent training twice a year by Garuda in order to improve their skills.

jetjockey696

Could you please share the link or a reference on the content you wrote below the heading 'the Jakarta post'
I tried looking it up online, couldn't find it...

Thanks

jetjockey696

I ended up having a look at the Jakarta Post, please disregard my previous reply

Thanks, cheers.

So how does the new 250 hours on type ruling affect your Aussie mates selection process? They were interviewed on the 8th; the new regulation came out on the 10th. Did any of them proceed to the next stage? I'm referring to the Susi and Merpati turboprop guys without time on type of course.

If that bit is true then I guess the guys joining Susi are in the clear.

I'm not talking about those joining Susi. Follow the thread and read my quotes, mate. It was mentioned earlier that some guys from Susi applied for Garuda and were interviewed. But if successful, they would be foreigners without 250 hours on the type of aircraft Garuda operates. Where do they stand with the new ruling that foreigners employed by local airlines will now need 250 (or 500 if more recent reports are true) hours on type? Unless these guys had 250 hours on the CRJ1000, B738or A330 before joining Susi, it's unlikely that they will proceed with the selection process for Garuda, given the new regs.

My guess, Garuda didnt see it (new reg) coming..

still happening
 

well, yesterday, Garuda still interviewed expat pilots in Jakarta.
those expats are holding indonesian licenses, without TR..and even no jet experienced.
good for them...
they will be based in Medan and Makasar, and get 5 yrs contract...:-)

haha... DGCA...nothing a few business/first class seats and few days all paid holiday on there first flight to London wont solve.

Termed under special circumstances Garuda will be exempted from the 250hr rule.. blah blah... hahah:p... probably stating that due to there excellent safety record and superior training.. no need to implement the 250hr rule.. and we will control the number of expats we will employ...:ok:


Money talks...

:ok:

Garuda Recruitment
 

Do they still recruit expat captains?
Their official site says only Indos.

afaik, expat captains only for CRJ..

Are you saying they've received job offers already from Garuda? If so, is there any requirement for 'release' letters from their previous Indonesian employers?

The reason I ask is that by changing companies, they will require a new KITAS sponsorship by Garuda and that can only be given, once their previous KITAS has been terminated. This usually requires your previous employer to do the paper work and issue you with an EPO, after which, you can then get your new KITAS sponsored by your new company.

well, you said .. they will be based in Medan and Makasar, and get 5 yrs contract...:-)

sounds like they've already got the offer!

if they are hired, those are their bases...That's part of information they got during interview process

Just a little early weekend humour.. from our fanatical brothers in Indonesia.. but this guy has a valid reason..:ok::D


Speed Bumps Should Be Declared Haram: MUI Samarinda

Speed bumps should be declared forbidden under Islamic law according a cleric at the Samarinda chapter of the Indonesian Council of Ulemas (MUI).

Cleric Zaini Naim, the head of the Samarinda, East Kalimantan, chapter of the MUI, released a statement on Thursday recommending that the MUI issue a fatwa (an official edict) declaring speed bumps haram (forbidden) or makruh (not recommended).

“Prophet Muhammad once said if someone saw a rock on the street that could harm another road users, it is their obligation to get rid of that rock and any other obstacle on that street to make it more convenient for another users to pass the street,” he said.

The Samarinda office made the recommendation after receiving numerous complaints from the public, Zaini said. While the speed bumps were originally placed in narrow alleys to prevent speeding, they often are the cause of accidents and damage motorists' vehicles, he said.

The police should instead tell people not to speed, Zaini explained.

“If the streets were properly constructed, they wouldn’t need speed bumps,” he said. “If the government wants to prevent people from speeding, they should make an announcement or a suggestion instead of putting out obstacles that endanger people’s lives.”

The MUI is considering whether to issue a fatwa, Zaini said.

Fatwas issued by the MUI are not legally binding but are considered to be strong moral guidance for the country’s large Muslim population.

Jakarta Globe...

Re-reading this quote from Garuda, I interpret that to read Garuda will hire foreigners who have logged a minimum of 500 hours on any type of aircraft, not just on the type that Garuda has. So I guess, those already with Indonesian DGCA licenses won't be affected by the new '250 hours on type' ruling that came in to effect on 10th Jan 2013.

For those without DGCA Indonesian licenses applying, I wonder how they are able to complete the online application form, as they wouldn't have the CRM, AVSEC, Dangerous Goods certificates from the mandatory courses conducted here. The apply/submit button returns an error if you don't include those certificates in your application.

Bad news, guys...
Garuda just cancelled recruitment for those non rated foreign pilots.
They only recruit rated, experienced only as per new regulation.
First I thoutght, it wont affect foreign pilots who already has Indonesian license,
çoz many of them had been interviewed and medically tested..but it's been cancelled now..

how about for rated foreigners with Indonesian license? is it still possible?

Apa ini?

Must be type rated and still front up $25k? It actually reads like a satire piece worthy of The Onion.

Local versus Agent
 

I'm just wondering why Citilink still arrange recruit process for local pilots but they keep searching pilot trough agent? :ugh::{

çoz that's where the greedy recruitment department get their (fee) money from...

Citi link a320
 

Did anybody notice that 'cockpit connect' advertised the same job for citi link(min 250 hours on type) as 'avia' without trying to charge for it but stressed " this is not pay to fly so if you are dont call us".It was also advertised on lpj but removed a few hours later,I guess it upset a few people in 'avia' Just goes to show.
If I had 250 on type Indonesia would still be bottom of my list in Asia.

If you only had 250 on type, Indonesia would be your only option. Other countries require at least 500 hours on type. The DGCA requiring 250 on type is still quite very lenient, IMHO.

brasmelzuit you missed out Thailand,;)
and training wheels I've seen 1 company in europe for 250 hour guys and 2 in Asia .there's still hope out there :ok:

Greetings to all

Any news on their recruitment drive?

Any update on 737 FO hiring would be nice.

My advice to all of you who wish to join Garuda group, always prepare to evacuate the place, as it is happen already many times........::O....they cut the contract of expat plots anytime they want...good luck....Oohh ya almost forget..enjoy the traffics jamn....;)

Garuda is actively hiring expat FO's on local terms. In case you were wondering the terms are pretty local. Base is 2500 USD/Month I have been told.

That said with flying pay you can live very comfortably in Jakarta in on 3.5 to 4K a month. Some like it, many don't.

Earning some money and staying current is better than the unemployment cue. I'm sure its not the worst job on earth for a 737 driver.

I just got an invite for FO B737 position. Does anyone have any updates on the interview / selection process?

Cheers!

citylink garuda
 

Are all the F/O recently hired by Citylink ( mid 2013) had to pay the 25 000 USD?
Or some of them were experienced enough ( 1000h) to have a decent contract?

How many hours you have on 37 flydego?

No shortage of local applicants with high level on experience on the ATR and on local area I've heard. Many from Wings and local turbo-prop pilots have expressed interest and some have already started training for the GA ATR gig.