It is a miracle that we even survived as a nation;after being left to die 65 years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong... but didn't the Russia nee USSR provide quite a bit of aid to India too? |
It is a miracle thanks to the efforts of Sri Vallabhai Patel who thwarted all efforts of the British to deliver to us a fragmented,divided and balkanised India by uniting about half a thousand states.
Didn't the Russia nee USSR provide quite a bit of aid to India too? (Including the Sword of Tipu Sultan incidentally bought back by Mallya in an auction,Also worth mentioning is the Kohinoor diamond that the queen just won't give back to us.Read here Koh-i-Noor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia When Elizabeth II made a state visit to India marking the 50th anniversary of Independence in 1997, many Indians in India and Britain including several MPs demanded the return of the diamond. |
Really Apache
You are worried about Kohinoor when there are thousands of other things you could be worried about. Here is a list of things wrong with India, 2012 Maharashtra Irrigation Scam – Loss of about 72,000 crore (US$13.61 billion). At present the matter is under the scanner of investigating / intelligence agencies of India. Kinetic Finance Limited Scam - Banks lost about 200 crore (US$37.8 million). At present the matter is under the scanner of investigating / intelligence agencies of India. Ultra Mega Power Projects Scam - Central government lost 29,033 crore (US$5.49 billion) due to undue favours to Anil Ambani-led Reliance Power. IGI airport Scam - Central government lost 166,972.35 crore (US$31.56 billion) by undue favours to GMR-led DIAL. DIAL (Delhi International Airport Limited) is a consortium of the GMR Group (50.1%), Fraport AG (10%), Malaysia Airports (10%), India Development Fund (3.9%), and the Airports Authority of India (26%). Andhra Pradesh land scam - 100,000 crore (US$18.9 billion) Forex derivates scam - 32,000 crore (US$6.05 billion) Granite scam in Tamil Nadu - Service Tax and Central Excise Duty fraud - 19,159 crore (US$3.62 billion) crore) Gujarat PSU financial irregularities - 17,000 crore (US$3.21 billion) Maharashtra stamp duty scam - 640 crore (US$120.96 million) Maharashtra land scam MHADA repair scam - 100 crore (US$18.9 million) Highway scam - 70 crore (US$13.23 million) Ministry of External Affairs gift scam Himachal Pradesh pulse scam Flying Club fraud - 190 crore (US$35.91 million) Andhra Pradesh liquor scam Jammu and Kashmir Cricket Association scam - Approximately 50 crore (US$9.45 million) Jammu and Kashmir PHE scam Jammu and Kashmir recruitment scam Jammu and Kashmir examgate Jammu and Kashmir dental scam Punjab paddy scam - 18 crore (US$3.4 million) NHPC cement scam Haryana forest scam Girivan (Pune) land scam [71] (not to be confused with Pune land scam which came to light during 2011) Toilet scam Uttar Pradesh stamp duty scam - 1,200 crore (US$226.8 million) Uttar Pradesh horticulture scam - 70 crore (US$13.23 million) Uttar Pradesh palm tree plantation scam - 55 crore (US$10.4 million) Uttar Pradesh seed scam - 50 crore (US$9.45 million) Uttar Pradesh elephant statue scam. Patiala land scam - 250 crore (US$47.25 million) Tax refund scam - 3 crore (US$567,000) Bengaluru Mayor's fund scam Ranchi real estate scam Delhi surgical gloves procurement scam Aadhar scam BEML housing society scam MSTC gold export scam - 464 crore (US$87.7 million) TIN scam Nayagaon (Punjab) land scam 2011 ISRO's S-band scam (also known as ISRO-Devas deal, the deal was later called off) - 200,000 crore (US$37.8 billion) NTRO scam - 800 crore (US$151.2 million) KG Basin Oil scam Goa mining scam Bellary mining scam Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike scam - 3,207 crore (US$606.12 million) Himachal Pradesh HIMUDA housing scam Pune housing scam Pune land scam Orissa pulse scam - 700 crore (US$132.3 million) Kerala investment scam - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) Mumbai Sales Tax fraud - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) Maharashtra education scam - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) Maharashtra PDS scam Uttar Pradesh TET scam Uttar Pradesh MGNREGA scam Orissa MGNREGA scam Indian Air Force land scam Tatra scam - 750 crore (US$141.75 million) Bihar Solar lamp scam - 40 crore (US$7.56 million) BL Kashyap - EPFO scam - 169 crore (US$31.94 million) Assam Education scam Stamp Paper scam (not to be confused with Abdul Karim Telgi's Stamp Paper scam) - 2.34 crore (US$442,260) Pune ULC scam 2010 Adarsh Housing Society scam Assam North Cachar Hills scam - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) Arunachal Pradesh PDS scam - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) LIC housing loan scam Commonwealth Games scam Belekeri port scam Andhra Pradesh Emmar scam - 2,500 crore (US$472.5 million) Madhya Pradesh MGNREGA scam - 9 crore (US$1.7 million) Jharkhand MGNREGA scam Indian Premier League scandal Karnataka land scam Karnataka housing board scam Uttrakhand Citurgia land scam MCI bribery scandal Chandigarh booth scam 2009 Madhu Koda mining scam Goa Special Economic Zone (SEZ) scam Rice export scam - 2,500 crore (US$472.5 million) Orissa mining scam - 7,000 crore (US$1.32 billion) Orissa paddy scam Sukhna land scam - Darjeeling Vasundhara Raje land scam Austral Coke scam - 1,000 crore (US$189 million) Gujarat's VDSGCU Sugarcane scam - 18.7 crore (US$3.53 million) 2008 Cash for Vote Scandal Hasan Ali black money controversy The Satyam scam State Bank of Saurashtra scam - 95 crore (US$17.96 million) Army ration pilferage scam - 5,000 crore (US$945 million) Jharkhand medical equipment scam - 130 crore (US$24.57 million) Haryana Teachers' recruitment scam Paazee Forex scam - 800 crore (US$151.2 million) 2006 Kerala ice cream parlour sex scandal Scorpene Deal scam Punjab city centre project scam - 1,500 crore (US$283.5 million) Uttar Pradesh ayurveda scam - 26 crore (US$4.91 million) Navy War Room Spy Scandal (related to Scorpene Deal Scam)- 4,000 crore (US$756 million) IPO scam Oil for food scam Bihar flood relief scam - 17 crore (US$3.21 million) 2004 Gegong Apang PDS scam 2003 Taj corridor scandal HUDCO scam 2002 Stamp paper scam - 20,000 crore (US$3.78 billion) Provident Fund (PF) scam Kargil coffin scam 2001 Ketan Parekh securities scam Barak Missile scandal Calcutta Stock Exchange scam 2000 India-South Africa match fixing scandal UTI scam - 32 crore (US$6.05 million) |
Oh and for Kingfisher, I worked with them till 2009, I saw the signs back then that they are not going to survive. I am surprised they lasted as long as they lasted.
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You missed a critical one...3G, losses pegged at around 30,000Cr(5.86 Billion US$):eek:
And personally I'd call Kingfisher also a big scam. |
You are worried about Kohinoor when there are thousands of other things you could be worried about. Here is a list of things wrong with India I suggest you make a list of those who lost their livelihood and shelter and in that crisis and try to put a number on their suffering.Now that will be some list I say. Isn't it also cool that you can talk n tweet about the corruption.Do you know how many countries in our neighbourhood even allow that kind of freedom (Someone rightly pointed out on another thread how the passengers would not have made noise if the flight had been destined for the Gulf instead of Kerala.) Do you still think that the Britisher were the ones that really screwed up India? This decadence (and violence),that we are witnessing is not an Indian phenomenon but a global one.This is not an Indian problem, this is a human problem.So lets stop pretending how developed and civilized the rest of the world is. |
look at the bright side, for the last 2 weeks KF's safety record has been impeccable :D
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There are a number of countries that either became independent in the late 1940s or early 1950s. Others, like Australia, only became independent in the 1980s.
However, in Asia we also have countries that war war-ravaged (like Japan or Korea) and managed to re-build their economies at a startling pace in the same period of time that India reveled in the Ghandi mentality and did not move forward economically or socially. The true question is whether a country is able/prepared to learn lessons from the past and correct errors very rapidly. |
A valid criticism but India has a much more complex society than the countries you mentioned, and so the comparision is not equitable.Why did't you compare us with Pakistan ?
India reveled in the Ghandi mentality and did not move forward economically or socially. Corruption is the result of the advantage that this division gives to those who have no conscience. Do you know who started the practice of Divide and Rule in India? Make a wild guess. |
Finally at last some closure to the diversion issues on this thread. Can we get back to the topic?
How can this crook be allowed to continue running this business when he does not meet his obligations to his staff? In any other civilised country this is fraud, deception and illegal. By the way Apache, I applaud your patriotism. If more of my countrymen felt the same way my own country would not be so screwed up just now |
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any country where u can bribe a policeman with 500 rupees or equivalent is corrupt.
now can we move on so that interested parties, in the "kingfisher saga" can be brought up to date. how is it possible that an airline without a license to fly can exist??? |
It is obvious from your post that your intention was not about bringing anyone up to date.You have given zero info about Kingfisher.So let me do that for you.
Kingfisher Airline licence to expire on December 31 if suspension stays - The Times of India As for the corruption, there is more money laundered at the American-Mexican border than what the poor Indian cop could ever dream of making. |
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heh heh heh apache u are a riot lol "american--mexican" border, most of the people i met in India have long since moved on past the British Raj, if after 65 years you are still stuck --well lol. On this website in 2006 when i was about to leave for Deccan some folks advised against it, saying the country was "dirty, smelly, and hot" it was all 3.
As regards these 3 things i`m afraid its impossible to blame the British, 65 years later people are still urinating in the street:eek:. maybe the govt should spend some money on public toilets.----in 2009 the govt decided to completly re-do the western 2/3rds of the 2nd floor of the Chennai airport, the relevant offices etc were not even occupied, yet the place stank of urine, and many of the newly painted corners were dripping with "beetle nut" spit streaks. (did the british teach u to chew beetle nut?) |
lol "american--mexican" border » Mexican Drug Cartel Assassins Bought Guns from U.S. Border Patrol Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! BANKS PROFIT FROM DRUG RUNNING AS CITIES DESTROYED: OPERATION ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ PART OF DECADES-LONG HISTORY | VOICE OF DETROIT: The city's independent newspaper, unbossed and unbought Estimated $50 Billion in Illegal Drug Sales From Mexico Can Only Occur With US Corruption |
On another note.... VJ reneged on the pay, as stated in the Times Of India. I bet the employees are happy they agreed with VJ not to picket the F1 race. In the words of Forrest Gump "Stupid is, is stupid does".
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Diageo deal could pull Kingfisher back from the brink - Reuters
If VJ does indeed surprise,will people start praising the emloyees for their foresightedness? It is important however to focus on what influenced their (employees) decision, instead of getting judgemental on them.Analogous to safety investigations, that aim at finding out what went wrong (and how to fix it), instead of pointing fingers and crucifying somebody. In the words of Forrest Gump,"Life is a box of chocolates,you never know what you are going to get" |
In the words of Forrest Gump,"Life is a box of chocolates,you never know what you are going to get" Oh… I think what’s in that box of chocolates was rather predictable… bottle caps and foil from Mr.Kingfishers empties. Oh and a bunch of empty promises to go with the box. |
I think what’s in that box of chocolates was rather predictable He paid the March money on 25th and the April money on the 1st.I don't know why he did not choose to renege on those payments as well. |
apache u CANNOT be serious the pilots have not been paid in over 4 MONTHS and u are finding excuses, the airline chalked up 1.6 billion dollars in debt with over 90 planes they now have 10 or 11, find a way out???? this i gotta see.:=
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With every KFA supplier owed money, I just can't see a way back without a massive pile of cash available. Everyone will want cash up front and their debt cleared as there is zero trust with KFA.
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