Any idea on T & C's yet ? Salary, base etc ??

what about working beyond 60?

I saw somewhere that they plan to fly to India.

Get used to night turnarounds for 1000 hours/year which is what the CAAS allow, for about SGD15k/month after tax, IF you fly. This is based on the existing SQ mainline local package which does not provide housing or schooling.

Sounds good? Think again.

Add to this the cost of living in Singapore.

If you have a family you will pay about 5k/month for a 1500sf flat if you want something reasonably nice (yes, HDB anywhere is cheaper but no facilities).

You will pay at least 2k/month per child for an international school (that's EVERY month throughout the year not just when school is in session). As an example the Australian International middle school fee is about 22k/year. But you need to cough up a registration and infrastructure fee totaling 6k/child. I believe Tanglin Trust (British school) is roughly the same.

Now you haven't even eaten or gone anywhere yet.

If you have more than two kids, forget about entertainment or nice restaurants. Get ready for dinner at your local hawker (which is actually pretty good) or to cook at home. Nothing wrong with that, but be prepared for Singaporean supermarket prices.

Buy a car? Save for retirement? Forget it. You are already out of pocket for your 50% share of the 777 rating, school registration and two months rental deposit (plus one in advance). Getting started will cost you dearly.

Singapore is VERY expensive, and this will be a grossly substandard package for anybody who's not single. Let supply and demand sort this one out before you make a mistake you will regret.

Fret not, the bee line has been formed. They are now overwhelmed with applicants. Too many desperate, divorce, single, heavily in debt pilots out there.

Of course the bee line has been formed. Guys like me send in an application to see what the T & C's are. If they're as low as you and others make out, then I'll simply say NO! As will a lot of others in "the line".

If these guys don't put a figure on the table, there will be loads of people who want to have a nosy. That being said, I am referring to type rated guys.

Does anyone knows what the retirement age is in Singapore , Has it been
extended to 65 yet ??

Does anyone knows what the retirement age is in Singapore , Has it beenextended to 65
 

yes it has.

Easy to see what's happening here. They haven't decided on the T&C yet. Depending on how many qualified and desperate applicants they get they will present an offer that they think they can get away with.

Agreed , just because they have a stream of applicants does not mean all will take the job. As the T&C,s have not been published as of yet. I suspect many might well take a look see and decline if not satisfactory.

Has anybody had a response from them yet?

The window closes on the 31st. I don't think they will be calling anyone until Sept.

what's the interest from the sand pit for these positions?

bangbounce

I was only referring to your questions. What's wrong to keep the options open?

if anybody needs to know the working and living conditions in sq just ask any x sq expat and they will tell you how its like

sq has been one of the pioneers in aviation in several areas and not all of them shining examples of good management; pilot benefits and exploitation of contracts to name a few though the second one is a different story depending whether you talk to management or pilot

so based on past practices you can expect them to pay the minimum that they could get away with which is minimum pay for maximum return if they can get away with it. a lot of people here are saying that they wont go but rest assured they WILL be takers where ever from, and sq will take them in because as far as management is concerned the planes fly. it may not be as simple as that but basically thats how it is

Yup strato's hit the nail on the head. Any truth in the rumours that RBA may be coming to an end?

Regarding the T & Cs. Logically, they will be at best SQ mainline local terms. I say at best, because the benchmark in Singapore nowadays is the substandard, bare-bones, scrape-the-bottom-of-the-barrel deal offered by Tiger.

Also, for any employment in Singapore, a dictionary is useful:

'at company's discretion' = you won't get it
'reviewed on annual basis' = less than last year
'generous' = crap
'subsidised' = crap
'discounted' = crap

TIGER website shows they are paying much more salary than what was advertised by flightglobal on behalf of SQ Lite.atleast sgd 5000 more per month.

Last heard rumour Capt's remuneration around 22K, FO's 16K details unknown.

Anyone else has more indepth details of their package n perks pls kindly share :D

Boeinglover

I doubt it will be 22k for Capt and 16k for FO. It would be more or less around 16k-18k for Capt ( depending on the hours flown), and around 10-12k for FO.

Since SIA mainkine is not hiring at the moment , there is no T/C info on their website.How does this compare to the current T/C at SIA mainline?

Check out SQ Cargo T & Cs on their career website, basically the same as SQ mainline. Remember, local terms.
22k for a Captain? Keep dreaming.
Try 15k after tax. If you fly. No flying = 10k before tax, no extras. Good luck.

For Tiger, salary is (as of last year):

Captain: SGD 203,873 (appx 17k/mth)
F/O: SGD 135,959 (appx 11.3k/mth)
JFO: SGD 107,963 (appx 9k/mth)

These figures are based on estimates that u fly 950 hrs a year (80 hrs a mth), pre-tax of course.

"Singapore Airlines appears to be considering naming its new long-haul low-cost subsidiary Scoot Airlines.
The domain name 'scootairlines.com' was registered in Singapore by TBWA, SIA's advertising agency, on 28 June.
SIA says that an announcement on the name and branding of the new airline, which will be managed separately from the full-service carrier, will be made in due course.
"Several names have been under consideration but the management of the new airline is not able to confirm details of the branding at this stage. Details will be announced by the management of the new airline in due course," said an SIA spokesman.
The airline is due to start operations in 2012 using some of SIA's existing Boeing 777-200s that will be retrofitted.
Campbell Wilson, a SIA executive, has been named as its CEO. Details on the network have not been made available.". :cool:

Etops777,

Thanks for the correction there. :ok:

Scoot? Likely name of SIA budget carrier

Scoot Airlines

Scoot Airlines sounds like a terrible name...

The Flightglobal link is now not working, it was supposed to stay open until Aug. 31st for the application period. It appears they may have not been serious about the job posting yet and simply fishing to see the scope and breadth of the application base. I assume they were not serious yet as no terms have been finalized yet and they will now open up a Scoot website soon.

Does anyone have any info on the next round of interviews?

Anyone heard back from the interviews last week/s?

Start date for NTR guys?

All seems very quiet.

I think at the moment this is all in house jobs. Not sure if they will keep recruiting over time, or stop future recruitment.

Certainly the ones interviewed are keeping Mum. (for good reason I guess).

Latest Scoot News
 

SINGAPORE, Oct 11 (Reuters) - Singapore Airlines (SIA) , the world's second-largest carrier by market value, is expected to start its new budget long-haul carrier in April with one Boeing 777-200 aircraft, the Straits Times reported on Tuesday.
The number of aircraft operated by the new airline will be expanded to four within three months and to a total of 14 Boeing passenger jets, with a capacity to carry around 400 passengers each, by the middle of 2016.
The success of the new budget carrier could give SIA a new growth engine and an ability to compete with rising competition from other budget carriers such as AirAsia and JetStar, a unit of Qantas .


Latest from the wires on 'Scoot'. They also had an ad in the Star here in KL looking for FO's. No T&C's were included of course.

First successful applicants will be notified on the 17th Oct. Expect CPT departures from 3K and Tiger.

$22K is accurate I'm told.

Expect CPT from 3K and Tiger jump to the SIN lite?
For FO, its no brainer if you have the chance to jump, I will say. But for CPT... not so sure.

It seems like, the NTR CPT will be paying for his own transition course, and sitting at the "right seat", and be bonded for 5 years. Is there gonna be anything in the contract stating that you will be getting your "left seat" back after xx years? Don't think so...They may "consider", but not "promise"....That's the KEY!

For an 320 CPT, it may be much easier to jump for an direct-upgrade to 330 CPT, in Korea or China(both accept NTR CPT)

What you think? Trying to make my move now....

What makes you think the Captains would not go straight to left seat? I think you'll find they are... and why not?

Heard through the grape vine that quite a few ex SQ mainline guys that got the heave ho during the GFC will be coming back to Scoot. Qatar may have a few resignations soon.

Interview / Flightprofile sim.
 

Anyone out there that interviewed with them lately can provide some insight on the interview process and sim flight profile ?

Also, anyone else here invited to interview in November ?

PM me if you prefer

Here it comes..

FlyScoot.com — We’re gearing up for adventure

Its been a while.....
So any updated news for Scoot? I guess it's gonna be a decent job, cause all seem to be very very quiet!?
Its said that the formal T&C will be out on 15/Nov, which is just today. Anyone got the real deal yet?

First round of offers have been out for a week or so.

how many pilots are needed to operate one B772?

There will only be one for a start, and they haven't reveal the routes yet, have they?