@chairwrecker,

This is in response to your post re - "TF is even more tightfisted than 5J's LYG so i'm not sure what you mean by AA being a diff kind of LCC...is that supposed to be good for the pilots?? "

As I stated previously, 5J is totally out of the picture for the reason that its package is way below the standard in the region for quite a long time. The Airline does not have an immediate plan to upgrade its package despite the current ongoings in the Airline industry. This has been their trademark since the beginning of their operations. "A long wait, much more than a longer reaction". This is a disadvantage to the pilots who are beholden to the Airline for whatever reasons and much more to the pilots who do not have any choice than to stay. But not to the pilots who are blessed with discernment.


TF "tightfisted" differs with LYG in terms of strategy. But before we go further, I would like to define first the meaning of "tightfisted" to arrive at a common understanding.

TF - Air Asia (Philippines) - "tightfisted" - minimalist (kuripot)

LYG - Cebu Pacific (5J) - "tightfisted" - cheap (barat)

Being a "tightfisted" is a virtue to a distinct group of businessmen but common to an ordinary farmer. From soil preparation to marketing the product, he completes the business cycle similar to a large corporation. But he is a farmer. He chooses his workers, brief them what he wants and what he intends to do, offer them a fairly generous pay to complete a 2 days job in one day (pakyaw) and etc.... With these, he saves much of the needed resources to the limit (people, time, money, equipment, etc.) to be used for other farm operations. He increases productivity and produces more quality yields. His "ACE" is dealing with "PEOPLE", the "multiplier factor" in farming.

This is my definition of a "tightfisted" and I am a farmer.:)

Do you want to do farming the 5J way? := Very disastrous! You will surely get what you have paid for...


Running an Airline is no difference....and it is always the "PEOPLE".


Again, let's just wait for the TCs and decide accordingly.


I hope I answered your question.

@arigato
quite a long read, but plenty of assumptions im afraid. agree on waiting for TCs though, have a great day!

@chairwrecker,

My "assumptions" for 5J was taken from March 8, 1996 to March 8, 2006 (10 years) based on "chippy". :)

I have not seen any significant change in their TCs since 2006 when the average package in the region for LCCs was US 10.5K. I happened to be in the LC since then.;)

My other assumption is, Air Asia Philippines will offer a better package than Tiger-Sea Air for the simple reason of competition. "Qualified Pilots" are very scarce in the region right now and China is paying as much as US 14K (Captain) minimum to attract rated A320 pilots.

In short, they will hire locally. Where? :confused:

Let's just wait for the TCs and may the best offer win. :ok:

excerpts from my inbox. maybe you guys want to check this out.
 

TO: ALL

Please pass the word.
Type rated, non type rated, direct entry Capt from Turbo prop, direct entry Capt without previous command experience (jet experience required), F/Os with CPL IR 200 hours, all welcome to apply!
____________________________________


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Pilot Recruitment in Philippines

As per our discussion this morning, this is just to recap on the details we talked about.

1. Date : 26th & 27th Feb
2. Time : Meet us between 10am to 4pm
3. Venue : Arts, FVR Park, 26th St. Corner 7th, Avenue Bonifacio Global City, Taguig (map attached)
4. Position : Captain & First Officer

Thank you very much.

Kind regards

Is there a contact for this...

I'd love to come back to the mother country...
pay? bases? QOL? Yes... I understand its a start up company in the phil... any info would be great...

I have a long way to travel... any confirmation of this info would be nice before I head over there.

K

Recruitment
 

CPL/IR with 200 hours are welcomed to apply also? Wow!

To bisaya, are foreign nationals welcomed to apply as well, or is this ad applicable for Pinoys only?

Thanks! :ok:

There is a certain "STANDARD" in hiring for a position in the Airline especially for pilots. Anything below the standard will jeopardize flight safety. That's the reason why many "qualified pilots" choose their Airline seriously.

I think Air Asia Philippines is not so desperate to hire "free for all". :)

Could anyone share any information regarding the package?

I am just contemplating if it is worth a try. :)

To all who applied for Air Asia yesterday and today - good luck to you all !!!

There are 3 more airlines coming...... Crystal Thai, Cathay Cargo and Jetstar Asia.

Take your pick.......... nice packages I've heard. Some will be based outside the Philippines...more OFWs coming up. :eek:

I have just received a reliable info that the package is "not worth a try" for people from the Legacy Carriers (LCs) in the region. This is also true to pilots in the LCCs who are getting more than US 10.5K and other benefits and privileges.

It is now safe to conclude that the outfit is planned to cater for local pilots only.

It's all yours guys!!! Grab it!!! :)

GOODLUCK TO EVERYONE!!! :ok:

@eight ball
sent u a pm sir! tnx.

Air Asia - Philippines
Salary Structure
Captain A320/319
basic salary P 186,290.00
13th mo. pay 15,554.00
productivity 83hrs (tax free?) 178,409.00
sector Allowance (4 legs) 57,320.00
gasoline allowance 21,495.00
meal allowance 13,767.00
______________
gross 472,795.00
tax on basic only 40% 74,516.00
_______________
net P 398,279.00


@P43.5 : 1US$ = US$ 9156.. (today)

@P37.5 : 1 US$= US$10621.. (HSBC 2011 year end projection)

F/O Salary Structure
Senior F/0, F/O with ATPL, Junior F/O
Basic Salary 100,000.00; 75,000.00; 60,000.00
13th Mo. 8,333.00; 6,250.00; 5,000.00
Prdcvity 83hrs 89,204.00; 65,466.00; 53,523.00
Sector Pay (40 legs) 26.794.00; 11,464.00; 0
Gasoline 21,495.00; 21.495.00; 21,495.00
Meals 13,757.00; 13,757.00; 13,757.00 gross 259,583.00; 193,432.00; 153,775.00
Tax 40% on Basic Pay 40,000.00; 30,000.00; 24,000.00

NET P219,583.00; P163,432.00; P129,775.00

bisaya,

what is the definition of a junior f/o? what about a senior f/o?

will they consider someone without a type rating on the Airbus?

Bisaya:
 

Bai, nice figures you quoted. Seems their offer beats most if not all local A320 packages. How did such figures end in your Inbox? Did you apply with them?

2,500 HRS and above on type

Only applicants with type rating got interviewed.

The rest will have to wait for the next Air Asia recruitment day.

I think there were around 300 applicants (maybe more). With 2 airbus to be operational by August/September, 24 applicants will be selected initially. However, recruitment will continue and will hire more as the need arises.

any idea when do they start hiring for pilots this 3 big company's, and where.....tnks

I was just wondering that they said there is a need for A320 Pilots in the Philippines, I tried to send my resume but without any reply. Does anybody Sir's know which one is hiring now? I really would appreciate it if any of you can guide me with this.

Thanks

watch out 5J
 

Can anyone post the pay for pilots so we can immediately determine if its worth looking into?
Thanks.:)

A320 stabilizer,

Go to page 3 of the same forum, post nos: 53 & 54. Salary for both P1 & P2 has been figured out - 'twas last February of the same year. That was the latest info. so far.

Hope this helps.

Hi, any news regarding the next Road Show/Interview for aspiring A320 Pilots?

Thanks!

iceman1

Sorry, there's no forthcoming roadshow/ interview at the moment. They have excess pilots due to the delay of the AOC. In fact, the 2nd aircraft is transferred to Jakarta.

cessna95

Yes, CAAP is requiring PAA to do a proving flight for night ops. I guess they're gonna do it this week.

All type rated pilots (Cuneta, Olfato, Vidayan, Sevilla, Bartolome, etc.) are flying with MAA in KUL now while waiting for the AOC. All non-type rated are currently undergoing training at Air Asia Academy in KUL.

Thanks for the info eagle135. But would it be possible that PAA will conduct an interview before June? How will we know if there's an upcoming interview? Thanks again!

We will post all the information you need. But for now we are just waiting for our AOC after we get this we can proceed with our other plans. Thanks for your interest in PAA.

Any new News?
 

How's the progress?

progress
 

progress ? maybe none... the admins even deleted the queries regarding the start date...

so i guess somebody is a bit disappointed about it ...:}

Looks like March....


TTG Asia - Leader in Hotel, Airlines, Tourism and Travel Trade News - Clark readies plans for budget terminal, further expansion

K

Inaugural Flight
 

The Inaugural flight will be on March 28, 2012.

Hiring
 

Go to the web page Air Asia.com and click on corporate then click on careers, you can apply online.:ok:

hiring
 

Chet - why would anyone want to fly with AA when they can fly for Airphil, Zest, or even Cebu Pac.................................

i am interested to apply for First officer position in Air asia Philippines, but i could not find appropriate link.
in airasia website its mentioned that its only for Malaysian pilots.
if anyone has information about application procedure kindly help out.
Thanks

AA
 

And many other airlines, individual preference I guess. To each his own.

Regarding Zest
 

Looks a very nice post but there is something missing on it, if you get an email inviting you to join the roadshow and then upon arrival from Europe the day before, and then at the roadshow you get a nice news from HR that any expats recruitment is on hold- meaning garbage bin- because they prefer locals, then obviously you understand that is much better to look for jobs elsewhere than in here.

Asia is big, probably in other countries if they invited you to a roadshow they do not change their mind in a question of days, and hopefully at least you get an interview to prove you may suit or not their needs.

Maybe you should check if they are recruiting Foreign crew first before wasting your Money on a flight.

@squarecrow....mgmt in zest and air asia phil had no objection to expats attending the roadshow...as a matter of fact i know of one who was personally called and asked to attend the roadshow.

How come invites are being sent to expats if the roadshow was for locals only? Don't see it mentioned anywhere in the advt.

After spending time and money for travel and accommodation in MNL on the day of the roadshow the air asia HR act in the most unprofessional manner stating that the recruitment is only for locals. :rolleyes:

How come things changed overnight?

thanks for that update Fernandez. Frankly I am not surprised by what you say about AA HR.