well,well. the words of MB "let them go" to the pilots of 5J are now happening. He thinks that 5J pilots are threatened with his words,now who's got the last laugh? I heard LG is in panic mode:D:D too and his blood is curdling:mad::mad: when he heard these latest turn-out in his company. He even asked why nobody from the management informed him that his skilled and "pogi" pilots are slowly jumping across the fence and elsewhere. Good luck MB,get your ass ready to rumble!! Piece of advice, get yourself an A320 rating and fly all the red eyes of Bupac...:ugh::ugh:

maybe yes,maybe no!! but one thing is sure: these guys are great Bupac drivers..:D

Well, if the issue is really about flying redeyes, who's to say they won't be doing the same where they're going? From a business standpoint, redeyes are a must if they want to compete as an LCC.

Wherever the present exodus ends up, it can only be good for the guys who decide to stay. Expect the compensation package to get better at some point.;)

@buskoto
i really hope so, as those who show loyalty must also be rewarded.

however, MB is a different animal. watch and learn. :)

joaocaracol... they dont take expats... only phillipinos ...

I am surprised nobody has looked at MB previous track record, it goes back a long time and he does not improve with age.

The best bet is send him packing

you will definitely be rewarded.... with more fights:eek:
:E
but youll get higher pay...........so you can get a bigger room at asian hospital:}

A More Serious Consideration on Redeye Flights
 

Lessons from the fatal crash of 5J 387 were not learned at all after all the years.


To refresh you with history, the management then made an "unsafe flight operation" to lessen cost and maximize profit AND allowed the Pilots to fly "unfamiliar route and unfamiliar terrain" that made them very vulnerable to commit the accident. The easiest way-out for this accident was to conclude a "Pilot Error".

On "redeye" flights which has been a lingering issue for many years now was not taken into a more serious consideration despite of the increase frequency of flights. Many complaints from the Pilots have been received but not acted upon for the reason that it is within the regulatory standard.

BUT the current regulatory standard is "LACKING" especially on the aspect of "CREW REST" in relation with Flight Safety. This has been taken advantage by the Management to lessen cost and maximize profit at the Pilots' expense. JUDAS!!!:E

THIS UNSAFE OPERATION ALLOWED BY THE MANAGEMENT IS A BIG THREAT ON AVIATION SAFETY THAT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A POTENTIAL ACCIDENT IF NOT CORRECTED, AND AS ALWAYS, THE EASIEST WAY-OUT IS "PILOT ERROR".

"Redeye Flight" is "NOT A BIG DEAL" with my Airline. You make a "Quick Turn" and sleep all day after the flight. The next day is a "Duty Day-Off" as mandated by the Airline. The Airline seriously consider the "PHYSIOLOGICAL ASPECT" in Flight Safety coz' we are "Human Beings".

"Human Beings" when subjected to "DANGER" or "THREAT" will instinctively shift to a "SAFETY MODE" or a "'SELF-PRESERVATION MODE".


Brothers,


You have a lot of choises now and sellect the best that fits you. Money is the least of your priority when it comes to "SAFETY" or "SELF-PRESERVATION". Do not allow yourselves again "TO BE PAID PEANUTS AND BE TREATED LIKE MONKEYS"...:=



Now it is time for the Management to choose their "WEAKEST LINKS"...TIME TO GO!!! BYE! BYE!.....:)



(Or your Airline will GO-AWAY!!!) :oh:

"Wherever the present exodus ends up, it can only be good for the guys who decide to stay. Expect the compensation package to get better at some point."
:ugh:

i dont think so.......:}

is ceb pac hiring ATR f/o's now? :8

^^^Yes they are hiring ATR FOs now.

Nothing posted on Ceb Pac's Careers website... How do you apply?

Wellll..... it is normal that pilots move from airline to airline many times. 5J should not be different, should it?

Maybe its time they started hiring foreigners?

I had a taste of working in RP.... I got culture shocked... padrino system... just a heads.up for those wanting to join the party.

I was young then ... maybe the times have improved but I doubt it.

:ugh:

cessna95

Does that mean the foreign MPLrs from CA can apply for the A320 FO positions?

I hope so!!

"Buddy buddy system is so rampant that people who deserve to get in can't."

@reallywannabepilot
sir so is it the old crooked PAL system again??? so sad what 5J has become. :ugh:

everyone is waiting for the Bonus in March then Exodus time again..............Anyone know Tonyboy Cojuangco's email add??

@really,

really now, if you deserve to be in, then why are you out? if it really sucks inside, why want to be in? kinda confusing dontcha think?

revenge is for the fallen, do pray the jedi returns...because when the asian empire strikes back, all the yapping and wrestling will pale in comparison to what will become to all of us.

Reedeye

It,s happening already, as of this week, the number is 43 drivers...13 to Airphil, 17 to Sea Air Tiger,9 to Zest Air, 2 to Vietnam Air, 2 to Jet Airways India... and still counting.... ..and by March, Air Asia will start hiring.......and management says to LG, ' It's still manageable.."..:ugh:

what about the PPS runway accident? what happened to the pilots?