Probeusmc
 

Was trying to pm you. Are you still at VNA? Can you elaborate on why
living in HCM is challengeing? (from an old post of yours...)

Just curious. Looking around at options. PM me if preferable.

@PROBEUSMC: Are you still there in Vietnam?? can you explain more about working with them, an about insurance issue between DPI and PARC ( I've read them both) they're all the same.

Could you pm me??

Tks

PARC use BUPA for medical insurance. DPI don't. Both give accident insurance. RAl does not.

PARC pay on the 25th, RAL at the end of the month sometimes the beginning of the next month. DPI pay on the 10th. so PARC are paid 2 weeks earlier and are paid more. with the new 2 % pay rise after 3 years and 2% more after 4 years it's a lot more.

And if you get in hot water with VAC, don't expect to be paid by RAL. The few PARC pilots who have dropped themselves in it had their salaries maintained by PARC out of their own pocket. The RAL guys were not.

The list goes on and on.

PARC. Do yourself a favour.

By the way dreamland is paid extra by RAL to represent them. He's a busy boy. The PARC guy has nothing to do because we have not a lot to complain about.

Can't agree more with ia1166. He is 100% accurate...and I speak by experiance!

Ah, so many experts, too bad they don't get the facts correct. RAL has full worldwide health coverage, except for in the USA, this includes coverage for accident and injury.

Unlike the BUPA coverage, RAL pilots are not required to pay $200 dollar excess / yearly deductible, in addition, RAL's policy covers dental and optical.

Accident and Injury (that helps supplement loss of pay), and also loss of license is available at an additional cost.

RAL salary is the same as PARC salary.

More propaganda, this is not true, this will depend on the status from the airline.

I don't need to skew the facts to make RAL look good, not sure why others feel it is necessary. :yuk:

I have worked for RAL and I was SCREWED by them. They have ZERO integrity. I know of others still being screwed. Still begging for their money, still having calls and emails unanswered.

Just use the search engine and gauge the positive comments about RAL vs the negative. Personally, I wouldn't care if they did have the same insurance as Parc, DPI, other.... even more money because at the end of the day when you NEED the support of your agency to get something as basic as your MINIMAL T's & C's of your contract honored, RAL are found wanting time and time and time again. They will sell you out and have a long history of doing so.

Didn't they just impose an ILLEGAL pay cut to their pilots, or so I read on this forum? (ie breach of contract? Aren't they being taken to court as a result?)

At the end of the day, RAL could "offer" whatever they want, but you GET is lies and deceit. Absolute SCUM. And I think you'll find the majority of comments from those with experience of RAL the same.

Good luck with your decision. Don't blame anyone but yourself if you do sign with those low life ba$tards and suffer as a result.

(Am I bitter? Hell yeah after the way they treated me. I don't work in SE Asia so can't help with the VAC stuff, sorry.)

Can somebody explain what and when is CAAV validation and when is the first month's salary actually will be paid to the crew?

1. There are two parts to the process, you must submit your certificates and supporting data to your appropriate fleet office, then you must take a written Air Law exam, when this is completed you will receive your Vietnamese certificate.

2. When you receive your pay depends on your contract agency, your pay is predicated on the day you begin ground school, for PARC you will receive your pay (daily per diem until you are on line) about the 27th of the month, RAL on the last business day of the month, DPI not sure.

Your full salary normally begins on the fifteenth day from the beginning of ground school. Your 6/2 roster starts on the day that you are checked to the line.

Cheers, D.L.

If Dreamland is who I think he is (from my Nam days with
Pacific yonks ago) then hes a bloodey genuine and very
honest bloke. He would give you the shirt of his back if you
found yourself in deep ****. And he was damn good to drink
with over at the Omni.

In the offer it says you'll be paid daily usd65 for fourteen days. What happen if you don't get your validation after fourteen days? You mentioned that the salary will only be in after you're checked on line. That can take forever isnt it?

My apologies, you go to full salary on the fifteenth day, counting days on toward your six weeks on, two weeks off begins on the day you are line checked.

Thanks alot dreamland. That's a real help. :ok:

and Euro pacific ? they are reliable?

I am a somewhat new contract pilot. I am on my (hopefully) second contract. What have I learned, as it pertains to this thread? Don't fly for Rishworth, ever or anywhere.

Most contract agencies (except) Parc have the same reputation, and that is that once you are "on contract" you get zero support. Rishworth goes one step beyond. They actively seek ways to rip you off. Avoid at all cost.

Parc is the only decent agency.

If someone knows of another, I am willing to listen

ok any pilot at Vac with euro pacific can give me any feed back??

thanks

Just posting to check if any A320 F/O has been to the screening recently (May until now) and can provide feedback on the experience, I'm heading there soon.

Thanks! :ok:

I worked for VNA for 17 months and was under Rishworth. I think the pay cut was jacked up and not fair but you are working for a foreign company what do you expect. Almost every airline pilot in the States took pay cuts, nothing new to this Industry. I thought other than the pay cut Rishworth did a fine job. I was able to change my schedule from 6X2,5X3 and month on month off. I thought the medical was better than I had in my home country. I would use Rishworth again if I wanted to do contract work again.

super Mate go ahead.... they are better than Parc eheheh.....doesnt make any sense.

Hi all looking for some info on the VNA Rishworth ATR FO contract.

Seem to remember reading 6 months ago that pay was $6k plus housing allowance. Latest contract however is about $5.3K with no housing.
Whats the deal has it reduced recently?

Anybody got an interview or a contract for B777 FO recently? How's the hiring situation for this fleet? Is it worth a try now?