Hi Mmartin

I am going for assesment in Cae soon I would like to ask you some questions as you been thought before , Could you send me a private
email ..Thanks REGARDS

apartement
 

Hi, do you know where the apartements are and if you can see fotos in the Internet of them? I know Jakarta, was living there before short-time, and as I bring three children I would like to know the area, be it Menteng or Kebayoran Baru or wherever. It was Old Batavia before, but I am not sure about now!
And where the Crews have their SIM-Checkrides?
Awaiting your soonest reply
Indonesia

Apartement
 

Hi, PK-KAR,
you know a lot about Lion Air, do you also know where the apartements are located? I would bring three children with me, and I just would like to get some Info about the housing sponsored by Lion Air, as kind of mentally preparation. I know Jakarta pretty well, thats why it would be nice to know, thanks in advance for letting me know!
Indonesia

MDs are done on their SIM in Halim, the Classics are on a sim just outside CGK airport or at CAE SIN, the NGs are still done in SIN.

Can someone give me the names of the apartments they put guys in? I dunno where otherwise. Am more interested in the company's recent (relatively successful) attempts to get its crew to fly exceeding their annual flying hour limits... more juice there! *grin*

PK-KAR

apartement
 

If possible, try to get the money out of Lion's pocket and find yourself a house. It'll
cost you less money with bigger rooms..Just my 2 cents worth opinion

Pilots are taking leaves due to their hour limits. trainings are slowed because of this problem. As far as I know hour limitations are not knowingly exceeded.

Housing will cost more than the allowance that you'll be receiving. It's not clear yet what option is really better. Some new pilots are leaning towards arranging their own appartments, but when you're away 6 out of 7 days, it might not be worth the effort and money.

Also, there is a NG sim located outside Cenkareng as well. I should know since I've used it. ;)

Djanello,
Nice to see you guys got the NG sim here...
I hope they've stopped the practice of "resetting the annual limit after a medex". Not everyone there wants to exceed... but some do... unfortunately.
I'll second that ! :ok:

Apartements
 

As I get to know from CAE, pilots are put in the Harmoni Apartement Complex near the central office of Lion Air. I think it is in Old Batavia, near Jalan Gajah Mada. On the pictures they look good, and they say that everything is included, also water and electricity, but as I heard here also, that is not the case, it is just promised before. Would have to see what is true. When you come alone, you have to share an apartement, if you are married and bring your spouse and family, you get an apartement for your own. The complex seems to be equipped with a tennis court, swimming-pool and fitness-center, if the pictures can be trusted.
Now they seem to be on hold, I did not hear from CAE for a long time. I just hope that Lion Air does not work together with Eagle Jet International to get Copilots for free, and after the promised 500 hours on type these Copilots are put on the streets again, that is like a Mafia!
To anyone who succeeds, I wish good luck and have fun in Indonesia. If you marry a local woman, you get reallly good living-prices in that country, e.g. meals, taxi, tuk-tuk etc. If you are alone, you have to pay double or even triple. So as soon as you arrive, try to get to know indonesian women, they are really nice. If it works out, you will have a very nice life in Indonesia, also with the "small" salyry at Lion Air! Good luck!

What simulators in the Lion Air Sim complex at Halim ?

Lion Air
 

Hi, did it work out? Do you fly for Lion Air now? I would love to hear from you how life is now in Jakarta and working for Lion, as I am thinking about that step, too. I am still waiting for the assessment!Please let me know, [email protected]

License is License
 

Hey, the Lufthansa Pilots also dont have more than 250 hours when they start to fly with passengers, and that is no problem! Everyone says the Lufthansa Pilots are very good, so having 200 or 1000 hours on small aircrafts does not say anything about your ability of flying a big Jet! You have the license, and thats it. That means that you are allowed to fly a Jet, so where is the problem? The real ability to have thew controls of a Jet you learn better by starting as soon as possible! Clear fact, or not?
And 4000 USD for a Captain is good money, when you live in Indonesia, and get anything!
Surely, in the US it would not be sufficient, but living in Indonesia, my Goodness, wake up, guys! You have a very good life, over there!
You dont need an apartement for 3000 USD a month, an indonesian house with aircondition you can get for 400 USD for two years, thats a deal, istnt it? So 4000 a month still looks small?

Lion Air Subsidiary - Wings Air
 

Hi guys

Im sourcing for opportunites to work at Wings Air, but funny, as its a subsidiary of Lion Air, the website has nothing on them.
They have recently ordered a big number of ATR-72, and a few have arrived. Pretty impressive aircraft, full glass cockpit, perhaps options for EFB...sweet!
Lion Air's rep, CAE, handles training for the 737, but it does not state on the pilot provisioning web page about ATR training program. Neither does EagleJet...

Does anyone have positive leads to recruitment personnel to contact? Or a recruitment drive in the pipeline?

Much appreciated....

Happy landings!

have a look at page 12 of the forum

Eagle jet International (First Officer training)

Wings air hired a couple of type rated expat FO's recently... I think they are still looking for type rated guys..;)

wings air
 

sorry if its out of topic
if i want to apply for wings air where can i apply instead of rishworth?

Does lion air hire Pakistani Pilots Holding ICAO CPL/IR ?

I guess lion, will lose a few more european pilots after christmas... Due to a fact that a agency (NZ) are looking for NG pilots(FO & capt) for european ops. Next feb. Thats if they havent jumped already:E i think the africa job..flying NG is much better paid and better T &C.. Than this airlines..more like walt disney airlines... :p

It's not an airline it's a real joke :ugh:

I thought there was a cadet pilot programme offered by Lion Air or Wings Air, am I right? Is this only open for locals?

Can any Ex-pat contract Captains tell us what its like working for Lion and living in Indonesia please?