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kk pilot 11th Jul 2009 13:54

I wouldn't worry so much about the interview - but you better fly that sim like your job offer completely depends on it......because it does

tcasguy 11th Jul 2009 16:13

Zlin77

Just to clarify, do you tend to operate or DH more from your "base", or is that different among the bases? This is assuming your type of aircraft serves your home base.

Thanks for the input.

Fly Safe,

t guy

stealthone 12th Jul 2009 04:17

Highflyer,

What type are you on at the moment?
Do you mind disclosing your total hours and experience level.

4PW's 12th Jul 2009 05:41

28 days off work due sickness or illness and you're fired.

Stick that in your calculator and see what comes out.

varigflier 12th Jul 2009 08:44

For those of you flying the line, how is the CRM in the cockpit between the expats and the Korean pilots? Is it a good atmosphere?

VF

inderaputra 12th Jul 2009 09:12

I heard that except for a very few " enlightened " koreans, the atmosphere is mostly tense with nary a word or two for long long sector period. Conversation is sometimes non existent and most of the time if a conversation goes on, it ended up without anyone none the wiser as most of the Koreans have poor conversational English. Having said that, there are a few western trained Korean gentlemen who speaks better English than the expat Latinos and aussie with their dreadful drawl.:ok:

highflyer321757 12th Jul 2009 20:52

Stealthone,

TT 3000+ of which 2000+ commercial jets as A321, B757 & B767, nothing major compared to many others but enough for the screening at least!

In case you have applied, be patient and good luck!

highflyer321757 12th Jul 2009 20:55

What about the CRM between Flight Deck Crew and I assume all S-Korean Cabin Crew? any conversation or interaction of any kind there?

stealthone 13th Jul 2009 04:44

Highflyer,

Thanks mate and good luck with your interview.
I applied two weeks ago, 4000+ jet time.
Have you selected your TRTO?

varigflier 13th Jul 2009 09:32

With an atmosphere like that I assume that is one of the reasons why the number of expat F/Os is low.:(

highflyer321757 13th Jul 2009 12:42

varigflier,

In case you are referring to my question about the CRM between pilots and cabin crew with your comment on atmosphere , than I am not sure what you are getting at. In my previous airline the annual CRM classes were held mixed with cc since the CRM with them (that kind of interaction) was considered equally important for which I am in favour. We can all go flying in a tube for hours and do our jobs but it is the interaction among the crew which attributes to a pleasant flight as well.

In case you were not referring to my question, perhaps you would like to explain?

About your comment on the low amount of expat F/O's, perhaps that has more to do with the fact that they are not on anyone''s seniority list and that they do not have the opportunity to upgrade to Command...what do you think?

highflyer321757 13th Jul 2009 14:16

varigflier,

I see now that you must have referred to the reply from Inderaputra about the atmosphere...:O

I still believe that the lack of seniority is more of a factor for the expat F/O's, anybody would like to comment on that?

stealthone 13th Jul 2009 15:46

Well, why would people with hours on a B777 leave their companies to join KAL? I'd say not many. Nobody wants to stay an FO forever.

Does anybody know why they need pilots with diplomas? If they do not provide upgrades for expats then there is no reason to have such a requirement. Apparently, 75% of guys can not apply because they do not have any qualifications. It's good for us who have it, less competition
I guess...

varigflier 14th Jul 2009 10:44

Highflyer,

I was refering to Inderaputra's reply and I agree with you 100%. Interaction with cc is also a big part of a pleasant flight.
Not having a chance for upgrade must stop alot of people from applying I would imagine.

VF

blues deville 16th Jul 2009 00:57

I was interviewed in March and received a job offer in April as a NTR CA777 with a course date later this year. Are they now interviewing/hiring expat NTR FOs as well?

For anyone interested, be ready for a full day in their medical center (8 hrs) running from room to room getting tested from top to bottom, do well in the sim (attitude is the key) and the interview that follows is just as formality.

BD

lospilotos 19th Jul 2009 13:16

College degree...
 
Can someone explain the background for the requirement of a college diploma which seems to be the norm when hiring at KAL as a FO according to the recruitment agencies. I wouldn´t expect to see that many FOs with college diplomas around....

maui 20th Jul 2009 00:21

lospilotos

When KAL ran the cadet scheme, all graduates had a degree. A lot from IT some from Med Sciences, Engineers, you name it.

The other intake stream was from the ROKAF and of course they are all so superior they don't need a degree to impress anyone!

Maui

highflyer321757 24th Jul 2009 08:50

word of caution
 
To everybody travelling to Korea at some point for the screening:

Check the flight itinerary given by your agent and make sure it mentions the code HK1 and not HL1! HK is a confirmed seat and HL is standby.

Probably not so much of an issue on a direct flight to ICN but when you depart from an airport which has no direct flights (as AMS-MAD-ICN in my case) KAL will simply put you on standby in case the flight to MAD is fully booked!

I remember reading a previous post about this but another code was given then. Because of that I did double check with my agent and they informed me that all seats were all confirmed even though this was not the case.

There I was at the airport fully prepared and ready to go...I never left and no comment from KAL or my agent other than "you will be too late for the screening"! I even offered to catch a flight to LHR since they depart from there every day so I would still make it on time but there was no interest :mad:

So, avoid indirect flights and for all those who make it to ICN, best of luck! :ok:

wall-e 4th Aug 2009 06:38

http://www.rishworthaviation.com
 
Experience:
NON TYPE RATED FIRST OFFICER must have: 1000+ FO hours on B744/757/767/737NG, 2000+ commercial jet hours, Flown on B744/757/767/737NG within 3 months, Under 45 years of age at date of screening, College diploma is minimum requirement *Note: Must be willing to arrange and pay for your own B777 FO type rating if successful at a screening, before starting on contract with KAL. We can help with the arrangements. However, you will need to make payment directly to your chosen sim centre.

PappyJ 5th Aug 2009 11:27

How's the environment between the local and expat crews? Cordial, Cohesive or Combatant?


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