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Capt Chambo 21st Oct 2010 00:27


Hi does any one know anything about a new low cost airline operate new b737ng base in kimpo international airpoet(RKSS).?when will they start to hire captain?anyone know how to contect them?any info will be good.thanks
Are you thinking of T'way airlines, which has one B737-800 and has risen from the ashes of Hansung Air?

More information here:- T'way Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ace Springbok 21st Oct 2010 00:40

Issues?
 
OK, I left KAL many suns ago but I do remember it was a great commuting contract. In those days we got first class travel without question and the expat pilots were treated fine by the ground staff. Things deteriorated after 2004 as more expats came in; with the weakening USD, the bosses thought the expats are the surest and cheapest way to break the back of the pilots' union.........they suceeded as expats began to accept the ****ty ways of doing things. The newer Alteons guys also connived to teach pesky expats a lesson .

In line operations, things seem OK until **** hits the fan when you have to fly " solo ." The local wonder boys either freeze or get tongue tied with ATC; or worser still, get you into knots with the ATC. In non normal situation if they fail to understand your actions they get into satcom conversation solely in korean language with maintenance/operations, all the time undermining your position as commander.

I believe from conversations with colleagues still there that the situation has gone worse with lots of newer expats eager to brown nose; now you have to spend your own time and expenses doing on line courses, no chance of ad hoc DH travel if there are no bussiness or ey seats available.

Having said that, if you are furloughed or a con artist wannabe from some dodgy operation trying your luck to get into the " big " league, KAL is a great place to get in. Always worth a try!

738james 21st Oct 2010 08:20

thank you capt chambo
 
Thank you capt chambo.I hear that the new low cost airlines is established by bank consortiums,and they have 3 new b737ngs park on kimpo intl airport.I dont know if that is T.ways or not.do you have any friend who fly in korea? or you alredy work in korea may get more detail on this low cost airlines?by the way i am a b738captain who looking for other job in oversea.any company you recommand?
Thank you very much capt chambo.
Best regard
James

GoForIt 22nd Oct 2010 20:13

the NASA medical
 
I've read this entire forum on KAL. I'm interested in the B777 NTR captain program, having extensive B757/767 experience. I have one question.

I'm 52 and after many years in aviation I have some hearing loss. The FAA medical has got to be the easiest in the world, and they don't really care. But I've applied for some overseas airlines, and saw eyebrows raised when they looked at my audiology test results. Is it even worth trying at KAL?

GoForIt

737av8tor 10th Nov 2010 19:36

Medical
 
Just went through the KAL interview process. Medical is not easy, but don't no hearing requirment. All the captain interviewies I stayed in touch with were not offerd jobs for one reason or another, me included. I wouldn't have botherd to go over had I known how they operated. 1K down the drain in expenses.

Lemon Drop 13th Nov 2010 01:24


Medical is not easy, but don't no hearing requirment.
Don't be offended but in all fairness to your hearing, did you mean to write/type that you don't know of a hearing requirement, or are you trying to say that you were unsuccessful but not because of [the] hearing requirement? In either case, hopefully your Korean interviewers had less trouble comprehending you than I did reading your post. Best of luck to you back home.

QAR 13th Nov 2010 03:33

Join Kal N Not Commute
 
Is anyone on the 19days on 11 days pattern and not commute.

Which means you live in Seoul with your family and keep the above mention pattern?

and lastly what is the 330 destination and flying like?

ImbracableCrunk 13th Nov 2010 20:48


The FAA medical has got to be the easiest in the world, and they don't really care. But I've applied for some overseas airlines, and saw eyebrows raised when they looked at my audiology test results. Is it even worth trying at KAL?

GoForIt
They do have an audiology test. I'm not sure how strict they are, but I have seen captains with hearing aids.

If it helps: You sit in a both, headset on, clicker in hand. Three tones (beep beep beep) of one freq are played at random intervals and decreasing volume. Click after each set of three. They check five frequencies. First left ear, then right.

PappyJ 14th Nov 2010 07:15

If you are a,
  • current A330 Captain at KAL, and
  • are either Canadian or American (cultural similarity), and
  • joined KAL as a DEC A330 Captain (didn't join as A320/A340 pilot then get TR'd),

please PM me if you'll be comfortable answering some questions from someone interested in joining KAL. Thanks in advance.

B737NG 18th Nov 2010 06:22

That is the recent strategy to undermine the effort to locate Pilots. Let about 30 to 40 fly in for Screening and Interview. After they are back home again they are being told not employment. up to 90% failure rate during the screening and later comes the line training, another gamble. Not worth to give a week of vaccation away and have expenses to be told: NO.

Las Vegas in Job search at this stage, recently I have seen some Korean Pilots in China looking for a greener pasture, does that not tell you something?

Fly safe and land happy

NG

hairspray 18th Nov 2010 07:14

Any one know, if and/or when KAL will be recruiting type rated guys for the A380 ?

HS

fatbus 18th Nov 2010 09:35

Jan/Feb US14.5K / month

Pullstandard 18th Nov 2010 11:06

any information regarding roster patterns/destinations/salary etc for the 330 fleet will be greatly appreciated guys...

cheers!

Capt Chambo 18th Nov 2010 20:30


any information regarding roster patterns/destinations/salary etc for the 330 fleet will be greatly appreciated guys..
Patterns:- roster is generated around your requested days off

Destinations:- go to the KAL website Korean Air and look under the tab of travel planning. Mostly SE Asia, Oceania, China, Japan. When you look at flights it will tell you what equipment operates on that route.

Salary:- Once checked to line $11,432. Whilst under training (approx. 3 months) $7732. Overtime $125ph for hours over 65 pcm. All figures are after Korean taxes have been paid.

ImbracableCrunk 18th Nov 2010 21:36


Any one know, if and/or when KAL will be recruiting type rated guys for the A380 ?

HS
You have to be a senior Korean pilot to even look at the A380, let alone get on the roster.

That may change, since word on the street is that all of the B744 pilots KAL sent to Toulouse for A380 school washed out. No A330 pilots were sent - that would be silly.

hairspray 19th Nov 2010 06:09

"That may change, since word on the street is that all of the B744 pilots KAL sent to Toulouse for A380 school washed out."

I keep hearing this rumour... Toulouse Airbus training is famous for being very relaxed and laid back. These guys must have been completely untrainable for them to give up and send them back.

non0 25th Nov 2010 18:51

... everything is ok over there? Hope that military exercises do not affect the airline business!

Captain Spam Can 27th Nov 2010 13:13

it must cost a fortune though eating out of hotels every day

airjet 28th Nov 2010 18:34

Korean Horror Story
 
I have a good friend that just failed the interview procedure, from his description of the type of rules etc, korean looks like its more problematic than worthwhile, it seems that a few years ago they crashed so many aircraft that the faa told them they were about to be banned from us airspace this has made them paranoid, before you even think about it best talk to someone who is either in or has been.:=

paokara 29th Nov 2010 00:33

is this $$$ pay for ALL aircrat types or just 737


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