PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   South Asia and the Far East (https://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east-45/)
-   -   The state of (the) Philippine(s) aviation (https://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east/342064-state-philippine-s-aviation.html)

eliptic 17th Jun 2009 20:02

How come PAL not flying to Europe anymore? almost every daily flight with KLM 777 are fully booked with OFWs

KLM have no competition on this route anymore:ugh:

ads1963 24th Jun 2009 13:54

CAAP now praying for FAA upgrade?
 
Php 14,000,000 or US Dollar 700,000 for bibles? Does your CAAP now have to pray for the upgrade?

http://philippineairspace.**********...e-haywire.html


Spends P14 million for Bible study
instead of hiring qualified personnel for safety standards



MANILA, Philippines – The newly created Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) is currently spending more than P14 million for a “values education” and “purpose driven life” seminar for all its employees.




Employees of the CAAP, who requested anonymity, told The STAR that retired Philippine Air Force (PAF) general Ruben Ciron, CAAP director general, has allotted a budget of P14,819,080 for a supposed “Spiritual Advancement Values Education” (SAVE) program that started in September 2008.




The program reportedly entails an employee attending “multi-level” 25-hour values education and “purpose-driven life” seminars supervised by Ciron’s consultant, Bishop Ernesto Sacro who, like the CAAP chief, is a retired military general or a Philippine Navy commodore.




So-called “organic” CAAP employees, or those that have been absorbed from its forerunner, the Air Transportation Office (ATO), characterized the SAVE program as a highly suspicious and unnecessary undertaking that uses up much of the agency’s funds and even diverts its focus as it tries to regain a Category I status with the United States’ Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) that it lost in December 2007.




“We should be focusing our resources and our energies towards satisfying the US FAA requirements so that we can regain Category I status which is the main reason why the CAAP was created,” a source told The STAR.
“But with this Bible study program of the CAAP leadership, we have wasted our funds as well as the precious time of our employees,” the source added.
The CAAP was formed upon signing into law of Republic Act 9497, otherwise known as the CAAP Law, in March 2008.




The passage of the CAAP Law was rushed as the country scrambled to regain Category I status with the US FAA.




The Philippines’ downgrade to Category II status particularly hit the country’s leading carrier, Philippine Airlines, since it was prevented from opening more routes to and from the United States and from upgrading its aircraft on these routes.




Organic CAAP employees had earlier aired dissatisfaction with Ciron’s appointment of numerous fellow retired military officials to key CAAP positions without the requisite civil aviation technical expertise and training.
To avoid questions on the appointment of these unqualified retired military officers, Ciron hired them as “consultants,” the sources said.

windsheargo 24th Jun 2009 14:28

HEY Ate FE !!!! RESIGN !!!!

9ball 25th Jun 2009 00:07

she won't resign.......organic na yun dun!!!!! pray that she gets a boyfriend nalang :O

question_authority 25th Jun 2009 15:23

Ate FE
 
@windsheargo

NYHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHhHhHAHAHAHAHA

Siguro nawawala din lisensya mo no..??nyehahahahahaahahah:}

twotters 27th Jun 2009 09:35

Is she still around?
 

HEY Ate FE !!!! RESIGN !!!!
Is she still around and yaking?

romeomustdie 9th Jul 2009 13:23

CAAP employees don't want to just shut their mouths, actually they want to shout at the top of their lungs about whats going on!....:mad:.

but sadly they can't......:(:ugh::confused::oh:

hopefully within this week or month some good change will happen....:ok::)

Reclamador 12th Jul 2009 09:18

Change?? CAAP?? Really??
 
I hate to burst your bubble Romeo, but we live in the real world and the bitter reality is that CAAP is a hopeless case. It is being run by highly-trained-for-nothing people. They may have the right staff for operations but the wrong guys in management are running the show. Your optimism for a change is just a waste of time. If I were you, I'd get out of there asap. Yes, LEAVE NOW!! Take your talent and skills elsewhere. Some place where they are recognized, appreciated, respected and compensated for what they are worth.

That my friend is the change you are waiting for :ok:

romeomustdie 13th Jul 2009 02:46

like MJ's song..."make the change"
 
CAAP hopeless case???:confused:...i see birth pains the i wish we get over with....:ok:

the people who's running the show should go away not I........:mad::ugh::D
thought about leaving the agency but........
i love my job......:)
i enjoy my job......:)
i like it here.....being with my family and friends...:)
well the pays sucks,:{ :( that's life...it is better than nothing...:D

MJ....make the change........:ok:

Reclamador 17th Jul 2009 22:33

Mr. Moderator what happened to my previous post?? Anyways..

Code:

the people who's running the show should go away not I...
These people will never go away. There is too much money and power at stake. They will cling to their position no matter what.

romeomustdie 20th Jul 2009 05:41

I agree with you!:ok:...oo nga nasaan yong previous post niya? at sa akin?...


ano ba yong OTBD

JV126 20th Jul 2009 12:28

heard that people in CAAP are trying their best to stop schools from renewing their operator licenses by making things difficult with stiff requirements. :*

also heard that a few generals are behind this to push thru their own agenda of monopolizing the system (flying schools).:ouch:

I think a lot of schools will close down. less jobs for instructors

Propeta 27th Jul 2009 06:57

:\ anu ba naman yan

HarmonRabb 27th Jul 2009 21:30

Flight schools
 
Yes, I've heard of these shocking deals with students particularly with one flying school. But let's not generalize, some schools are still honest.

afjose 9th Aug 2009 03:55

donations
 
if you encounter any difficulties with them ''baka kulang ka sa donation'' :\:\

Propeta 9th Aug 2009 14:50

Uhm that's bad when you think CAAP is about public service and representing the Philippines to the aviation industry :=

amihan 12th Aug 2009 09:43

Aaahh... Finally, after the long wait, it's out now. 30-40% increase in salary for the technical staff. Not bad.. but still way, way off the 100% increase that has been promised before. Although the allowances issues are still dodgy at this stage. Is this the beginning of a better life in CAAP?

FYI people, we are the technical staff. We're not included in those donation boxes that's been mentioned in this forum. They've (Safety Div) been increased as well. Will this be the end of the so-called "donations" issue?

win_faa 13th Aug 2009 07:52

A Senior Aviation Safety Inspector at the Safety Div earns around P20,000/mo. With a 40% increase thats about P28,000 w/o taxes, this is still very LOW :{ A manager in a big MRO in the Phil usually gets a pay of about P50,000/mo. You cant convince highly qualified people to join CAAP with this kind of salary. In that case they would still have to have the donation box :ugh:

pare 15th Aug 2009 00:27

CAAP Increase
 
20t is just the basic. Their allowances are just unbelievably off-the-roof. However, the donation thing will continuously be there, lantaran man o patago, it's part of the culture already.

30-40% increase might be decent enough but the fact remains the same; People will continue to leave not only because of the money issue. The corrupt practices, bad politics and rotten system of CAAP are unbearable to many employees, ATCs in particular. A big proof of this is the huge turnout of applicants when a South African HR came over to recruit experienced controllers.

What is the management's word on this? "Let them go, they can be replaced". Yeah right!? By a young, newly grad who they expect to talk to 20-30 aircraft at any given time and expect the same results. You can never buy experience!!! When will they ever learn that!?

Propeta 19th Aug 2009 13:22

Uhm, well Philippine Civil Aviation will indeed suffer with these people around :=, if ever our category goes down the drain we can thank these people:ugh: it only take a few rotten tomatoes to spoil whole bunch:yuk:,


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:27.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.