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fuzylogic577 2nd Aug 2011 13:18

crash
 
i agree with subsonic..

much to the detriment of all those following the news of the crash on the news, they receive a flawed newscast. much better to ask those that are either from omni, or were there at the site.

the parents of our brothers are most definitely going to be biased in their answer as to whether omni is still safe or not. its impossible to get an objective view from those close to those that died.

this is what i know:
>this is the first and only fatality from omni since it started way back in the '90s.

>several other flying schools in the philippines have a worse statistic than omni and yet they are still operational with students enrolling left and right.

my advice is: do your homework on your target school. talk to the students. dont talk to the staff/employees (theyll give you their best foot always). talk to the caap and do an informal survey.

lets just hope that this wont happen again.. regardless of what flying school, company, airline you're flying with, nationality, rank, flying hours...

BE PROFICIENT with your recoveries brothers. doing it once does not count.

IT WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE LEAST EXPECT IT. BEST BE READY FOR IT.

frag.ile001 2nd Aug 2011 14:32

@fuzylogic577
 
just to let you know, ive received word that even after the crash, omni is still receiving students... meaning, despite what happened, omni still has a strong enough reputation to keep on training students.

you want to know what school is the best? certainly not omni. no one school in the philippines can be the best. but omni sure is up there in the list.

but why are you listening to me? go there and find out for yourself! i aint gonna baby you.. :}

Ankit Kotecha 7th Aug 2011 10:26

does Omni has vacancy for flight instructor positions at the moment ?

please enlighten me with this. thnx.,

frag.ile001 11th Aug 2011 15:02

vacancy at omni
 
from what i heard... yes. i believe there's an exodus of veteran flight instructors from omni going to the airlines.

lotsa planes.. lotsa students.. few instructors..

so far theyve only gotten 3 new instructors from their crop of homegrown batches.

Ankit Kotecha 12th Aug 2011 08:03

thanx sir..
can you tell me more about the recruitment process, personnel and whether they hire foreigners or not..
please assist me with this..
thanx so much..
tail winds..

frag.ile001 15th Aug 2011 05:20

vacancy
 
i dont know how they process potential hires. best to email (if youre at a different country) or call them (if youre staying in the philippines).

youll find their contact numbers at their website.. omniaviation.com

good luck

emcee 15th Sep 2011 11:31

Despite the incident that happened lately, the school is still receiving lots of students. Heard that they are lacking instructors because of the number of cadets

airbus_21 30th Oct 2011 00:23

try applying with Cathay Pacific Cadet pilot program.

flyb0i_1 1st Dec 2011 13:47

Cathay Pacific Cadet
 
Any info that you can share regarding cathay's cadet pilot program?

alitaptap 2nd Dec 2011 06:06

cathay pacific cadet
 
flyb0i 1,

check their website . . . .

GTS925 4th Jun 2012 13:59

Will OMNI allow me to use my uncle's C-152 instead of renting theirs to save money?

SuperJet 19th Sep 2013 07:39

Hi All,

Pity that this thread seems to have died a while ago.

I am on of those still very interested in Omni, and from my own experiences, to lay to rest the concerns concerning accidents. If Omni has been around since the nineties and one fatal accident, although noone wants to hear about fatalities, I have been with two 'top' flight training organisations, and BOTH have had serious accidents, both related to engine failures, in an both cases, severe injuries. It can and will happen. One of those was a solo student, and one was with a highly experienced instructor.

Anyhow, thats my 2c worth on that, so, my advice, dont discount a flying school because of one incident.

Back to Omni as a whole though...

I want to live and work in Philippines, and already have a (lapsed) JAR PPL and 130 hours. I am not too woried, certianly not at this early stage, about converting CAAP/ICAO licences to FAA/JAA/etc, as I want to remain in the Philippines and work there.

So, I have heard a lot of good things about Omni, and if there CFIs/FIs are being snapped up by the local carriers, that bodes well, but, how does that apply to a foreigner going there? Assuming I get through the PPL/CPL/ME/IR with Omni, as a non-Philippines citizen, will a local carrier look at me? Even if I have to, say, go across to Clark and pay my own A320 TR, what are the prospects? Or, would I have to complete an Instructor course and instruct at Omni to build hours, and contacts, before they would look at me? Or maybe not even then? :sad:

Would love to hear comments from the wise. Maybe even someone who has been through a similar route to that?

Thanks to all! ;)

Fly safe and always be grateful that your a flyer in the first place! :ok:

SJ

Gulfstreamaviator 19th Sep 2013 09:03

Dreaming
 
Will OMNI allow me to use my uncle's C-152 instead of renting theirs to save money?

Why should they save your money, and not earn theirs.???

But from a practical point, I would assume your 172 is not insured, or maintained to the companies Public Transport schedule.

A solution might be to lease your uncles 172 to the company.

glf

baroks 2nd Feb 2014 11:48

Seaman to Pilot at age 30s
 
Hi to everyone,
Iam new here, I just want to ask for your expertise and ideas regarding flying in the Philippines. I am working onboard the ship as an electrical engineer, I am thinking for a career change . However, Im 32 yrs old. would that be a problem if 2 to 3 yrs from that my training will end and would it be easy for me to get into the local airlines? thanks in advance.

baroks 2nd Feb 2014 12:12

Omni or Alpha Av
 
Hi there again,

I would like to ask if someone has been enrolled or currently
do trainings on the above name of schools. Any feedback ?
thanks

potatoteddy 12th Jun 2014 11:38

Can someone comment on the price of this PPL course? Is that reasonable and if it is consistent with the rates of other aviation schools in Philippines (Luzon)?


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potatoteddy 12th Jun 2014 11:45

Any more updates on the quality of the training provided by Omni?

Anyone knows what is the average cost of pursuing in a PPL in Philippines (Luzon)?

Ankit Kotecha 14th Jun 2014 10:29

Average cost for PPL in Luzon area = 11,000 USD

Black Crow 14th Jun 2014 10:51

Why would anyone want a Philippine license?? If you plan on staying in the Philippines, fine. If you plan on going anywhere else in the world, you are screwed!

No one accepts a CAAP license as it's widely known the lack of standards and very poor training.:=

potatoteddy 14th Jun 2014 15:00

I just received a quotation from Omni:

PPL (Cessna 152) = Php 601,000
PPL (Cessna 172) = Php 818,000

Includes:
- Documentation fee
- Books and materials
- Ground school
- 10 hours simulator training on Redbird LO
- 60 hours of actual flight training (40 hours dual, 20 hours solo)
- Operational charges and landing fees

This is almost 14,000USD. Expensive for the amount of training hours provided?

potatoteddy 14th Jun 2014 15:07

I am just contemplating the idea of doing a PPL in Philippines solely for leisure reasons at the moment. I am being posted to Philippines on a business trip for one year. Isn't CAAP not a member of ICAO, will I have difficulty converting it?

Can you not do a PPL in Philippines and perhaps do a CPL in some other more developed countries?

potatoteddy 15th Jun 2014 01:51

The only reason why I am doing a PPL in Philippines is because I have been sent here to work for my company for a period of 1-2 years.

Is CAAP not a member of ICAO? The training method and materials they use should at least have some level of decency, I suppose? Do you foresee any difficulties in doing a conversion back in my country? If I do a conversion in my country, then I will be eligible to do a CPL, no?

Thanks in advance.

Black Crow 15th Jun 2014 02:20


The only reason why I am doing a PPL in Philippines is because I have been sent here to work for my company for a period of 1-2 years.

Is CAAP not a member of ICAO? The training method and materials they use should at least have some level of decency, I suppose? Do you foresee any difficulties in doing a conversion back in my country? If I do a conversion in my country, then I will be eligible to do a CPL, no?

Thanks in advance.
The Philippines is infamous for poor training and exceptionally poor standards in aviation. While they are a member of ICAO they skirt around requirements.

I personally know pilots who have certificates that have aircraft on them that they have never flown and also have ratings they have never tested for.

As far as your country conversion, a lot depends. You are only as good as your training. Most countries see through the pathetic BS of CAAP.

potatoteddy 15th Jun 2014 03:21

Thanks for the heads up, appreciate it!

I'm from Singapore and the flying schools here only issue restricted PPL due to space constraints. To achieve full PPL, the solo x country flight has to completed else where.

I'm doing PPL for leisure and I'm still in the process of filtering out the best aviation schools in Luzon.

I'm getting mixed feedbacks for Omni and AAA, appreciate if anyone can give latest feedbacks and price!

potatoteddy 15th Jun 2014 06:08

Thanks for the heads-up, appreciate it.

The other reasons why I am not doing it here in Singapore is because the PPL is restricted (cross country flight has not be done overseas due to space constraints) and the cost is relatively cheaper.

I am in the process of filtering out the better fly training schools, so that I can quality training. I am not going to compromise my personal safety to save money.

Appreciate if any students from Omni or AAA can give feedbacks!

sabbaths 7th Nov 2014 00:36

no doubt the best flying school in terms of flying skills :D

Hrithik R 18th Sep 2016 05:42

How much is P1.5m in indian rupees??please help me need the details for cpl help me !
 

Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 4008288)
@jester
thanks for the tips. im sure omni has enough trainer planes, they ordered 6 more cessnas. this is also an indicator that their student population is increasing.

@mplcadet
from what i've read, CA has their own planes. so why did you have to fly at omni?

@smiling goat
do you know how much PAL av charges for PPL, CPL and IFR? i inquired at omni and it costs P1.5M for the PPL, CPL and IFR.

Do you guys know any graduates of omni? i'd like to know how their aviation careers are doing. like what airlines do they work for.

i think schools are successful if their graduates are successful.

Hii iam hrithik from india iam going to finish my 12th std with science group this year and i want to become an pilot so i need the full details of pilot training and the best aviation schools for this in phillipines as india is not good at it and i heard omni aviation is good is it true and please help me with the requirements to join and cost and each and everything required to get into omni aviation do help me!

Joselorenzo87 30th Dec 2016 11:07


Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 4040408)
thanks for all the info. im pretty much decided that im going to omni since 1) it costs much cheaper than PAL and CIA.(P1.5M for the PPL, CPL and IFR). last time i heard, PAL costs P2.5M for the ab-initio pilot program.

2) quality training. the increase in the number of students are a proof of this and besides the accident in december 2007, theres not much bad things to say about them. also, CIA wouldnt entrust their students to a low quality school. especially since they're shelling out P4M.

3) 1 student 1 instructor is great. although i doubt they could keep that up with all the students.

all i need to do now is secure an SPL from the ATO.

any tips for this? Omni accepts students with glasses, im not sure about ATO.

Hello Don Vito, I wonder... how was your Omni experience? Are you now a licensed commercial pilot? If so, what airlines? Please answer... I really need help

blazeflying015 25th May 2017 03:13

Hi Guys,

Any updates regarding OMNI. HOw they help their graduates land an Airline Pilot Job?
Any testimonials. Please.. need your reviews.

Thanks

v5city 8th Dec 2017 11:26

Type of assessment
 
Good day guys

Any idea about what kind of assessment does Omni do for flight instructor course, any link to their questions or assessments would be helpful

Cheers guys

v5city 6th Jul 2018 08:41

These guys are pretty crap. No idea about what they are doing. Money burning school

Aerojoe15 22nd Feb 2021 15:37

Hey Guys, just wanted to ask if OMNI's ACTP program is good? Is it worth the money? Based on the previous years, it seems that their graduates are A320 type rated but now they say its only a qualification for the type rating?? So I was wondering if its worth the hype. Thank you for your response!

Masba 23rd Feb 2021 14:52


Originally Posted by Aerojoe15 (Post 10995599)
Hey Guys, just wanted to ask if OMNI's ACTP program is good? Is it worth the money? Based on the previous years, it seems that their graduates are A320 type rated but now they say its only a qualification for the type rating?? So I was wondering if its worth the hype. Thank you for your response!

Are you aware of the MASSIVE amount of filipino qualified pilots jobless? PAL, AirAsia and Cebu have fired more than a thousand pilots, all rated and experienced in all fleets, more to come due to the poor Government management of the COVID. Most filipino pilots wont be accepted out of the Philippines, either due to the low standards, the Class I medical or just because several countries will not accept a CAAP license except maybe Bamboo and couple more.

Don’t waste your time and money in getting a CAAP license, or at least wait 5-10 years until all the qualified jobless pilots are either retired or re-accepted in their airlines.

Aerojoe15 28th Feb 2021 23:42


Originally Posted by Masba (Post 10996279)
Are you aware of the MASSIVE amount of filipino qualified pilots jobless? PAL, AirAsia and Cebu have fired more than a thousand pilots, all rated and experienced in all fleets, more to come due to the poor Government management of the COVID. Most filipino pilots wont be accepted out of the Philippines, either due to the low standards, the Class I medical or just because several countries will not accept a CAAP license except maybe Bamboo and couple more.

Don’t waste your time and money in getting a CAAP license, or at least wait 5-10 years until all the qualified jobless pilots are either retired or re-accepted in their airlines.

Yes, I'm aware of the current situation but I think that shouldn't stop us from doing what we love. Personally, I don't mind waiting in the line to get my chance and while Im patiently waiting. I'll just build up experience so when the time comes, I'm ready.

With that being said. Do you guys have any idea about this ACTP program OMNI offers? And if OMNI is still one of the best flight schools here in the Philippines? I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.


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